真相！！公积金投资项目大亏损。。。

12A123

公积金海外投资有25%大约2500亿，马币对外国货币已经大约下降20%，如果单是货币存款，应该是有兑换率收益500亿，结果公积金主席说得意洋洋的说公积金这2500亿有25亿马币的收益，严重反映公积金的项目已经亏损高达10多%，而且投资项目应该是固定资产，还有其他投资项目到现在连利息回酬的标准都没有！！！麻烦各位反对党请专业人才探讨一下这问题，在国会提起追问！！！公积金的投资操作已经出现严重问题了！！！！

faces.

部长们会说公积金局手持最多国债债卷，单是赚政府的利息已够COVER亏损

Sagarasouke

人民的老本肯定被这裹阵政虎坑完的，早晚之事...

羅馬王子

人民的血汗錢啊

羅馬王子

faces. 发表于 23-5-2015 07:42 AM
部长们会说公积金局手持最多国债债卷，单是赚政府的利息已够COVER亏损

夠正面夠樂觀

12A123

羅馬王子 发表于 23-5-2015 08:39 AM
夠正面夠樂觀

国债？怎么连利息都没有，想骗什么人？

prince

公积金的投资一路来都是亏的，没什么好奇怪，当年投资knm和mas，就已经亏了数百亿。

prince

公积金的投资一路来都是亏的，没什么好奇怪，当年投资knm和mas，就已经亏了数百亿。

羅馬王子

12A123 发表于 23-5-2015 10:18 AM
国债？怎么连利息都没有，想骗什么人？

浪費我們的錢

假神

你是讲最近这个新闻？
新闻是讲INVESTMENT INCOME哦
搂主你讲的是FX GAIN/LOSS，
好像是不一样的咚咚哦？

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my ... income-2033-rm1063b

EPF’s 1Q investment income up 20.33% to RM10.63b
By Ahmad Naqib Idris / The Edge Financial Daily   | May 22, 2015 : 9:32 AM MYT   
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KUALA LUMPUR: The Employees Provident Fund’s (EPF) investment income was up 20.33% at RM10.63 billion for the first quarter ended March (1Q15) from RM8.83 billion a year ago, largely due to returns from its equity investments.

Total investment assets stood at RM663.75 billion, arising from net contributions of RM5.9 billion and the reinvestment of investment income generated during the quarter.

In a statement yesterday, EPF chief executive officer Datuk Shahril Ridza Ridzuan said the retirement fund’s improved performance was due to its equity investments.

“This was supported by economic developments, including the stabilisation of oil prices and positive progress in the eurozone, leading to a number of global markets registering encouraging growth,” he said.

He added that the strengthening of the US dollar had boosted returns from the EPF’s global investments, which contributed to 44% of its total income.

As at March 31, the EPF’s global investments made up 25% of its total investment assets.

“Under the current low-interest rate environment, the EPF has further diversified its investments in equities, real estate and infrastructure to ensure the preservation of its members’ savings and to generate the desired real rate of return,” said the fund.

For 1Q15, equities accounted for 43% of its total investment assets and contributed RM6.36 billion or 60% of its total income, up 31% from RM4.84 billion for 1Q14, mainly due to the higher income recognised in the EPF’s global portfolio, which capitalised on a price rally in both emerging and developed markets during the quarter.

The asset size of its real estate and infrastructure investments expanded 43% to RM20.93 billion, which brought in an income of RM251.54 million for the quarter.

“The asset class is expected to receive more dividend income for the coming quarters, and to recognise the gains from recent property disposals,” said the EPF.

A major portion of its investments are now in fixed-income instruments, which accounted for 50% of its total investment assets for 1Q15.

EPF said fixed-income investments continued to provide a steady stream of income amid the low-interest environment, and that it is presently taking opportunities “to capitalise on yield movements to rebalance the portfolio’s yields”, as rates are expected to remain at historical lows in the near term.

Meanwhile, its investment into Malaysian government securities generated RM1.7 billion in income for 1Q15, up 7% from RM1.58 billion a year ago.

Loans and bonds, on the other hand, contributed an income of RM2.03 billion, compared with RM2 billion for 1Q14, while money market instruments contributed RM278.20 million in income.

The fund also revealed it had invested more than 40% of its funds in syariah-compliant assets, in anticipation of the launch of a fully syariah-compliant fund in the future.

On the overall market outlook, Shahril said: “Global growth remains moderate with uneven prospects across countries and regions, particularly contrasting outlooks for emerging and developed markets.”

He also said it is widely anticipated that there is a higher risk now of US interest rates normalising, and this will spur demand for the US dollar, which will impact global currencies and capital markets.

“While we managed to achieve a good start for the year, we remain cautious for the quarters to come due to uncertainties of both economic and investment environments on the global and domestic fronts.

“As a retirement fund, [the] EPF continues to focus on its long-term strategies to meet its targets for an inflation-adjusted return,” Shahril added.

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假神 发表于 23-5-2015 11:35 AM
你是讲最近这个新闻？
新闻是讲INVESTMENT INCOME哦
搂主你讲的是FX GAIN/LOSS，

主席在用兑换率掩盖真相

假神

12A123 发表于 23-5-2015 11:53 AM
主席在用兑换率掩盖真相

如何用兑换率掩盖真相呢？INVESTMENT INCOME  和 FX GAIN/LOSS 是分开记录在  FINANCIAL STATEMENT。

这是2014 EPF 的FINANCIAL STATEMENT
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/do ... cial_Statements.pdf

为何大家都喜欢人云亦云，讲EPF亏钱？
为何不实事求是看FINANCIAL REPORT？

假神

prince 发表于 23-5-2015 10:25 AM
公积金的投资一路来都是亏的，没什么好奇怪，当年投资knm和mas，就已经亏了数百亿。

请问有新闻链接 吗？

kin84

公积金局说政府会承担所有的

12A123

假神 发表于 23-5-2015 01:07 PM
如何用兑换率掩盖真相呢？INVESTMENT INCOME  和 FX GAIN/LOSS 是分开记录在  FINANCIAL STATEMENT。

...

因为收入已经完全不符合海外投资兑换成马币后，出现应该有的价值

大一

我们能怎样？又不能挤提。希望快点换首相咯。

12A123

大一 发表于 23-5-2015 01:35 PM
我们能怎样？又不能挤提。希望快点换首相咯。

也要有人揭发谎言啊

cyberjaye

假神 发表于 23-5-2015 01:08 PM
请问有新闻链接 吗？

投资RHB Securities, Time的IPO 也是亏大钱。

winray

大家还是找时间把公积金提领出来自己储蓄吧。快来看看，有什么办法可以提早领出公积金的：提早领出公积金的条件和方法

假神

cyberjaye 发表于 23-5-2015 02:50 PM
投资RHB Securities, Time的IPO 也是亏大钱。

如果大家选择偏见的只是看epf亏损的投资标，还有很多。例如fgv.
但epf赚的远远比亏的多 。

因为epf的投资条规规范，只可以把大部分资金投资本地。但本地只有那少数的上市公司。
所以我很赞同让epf提高投资外国的比例。更有多润。

当Epf持有的公司，业绩不好，就算是关联公司，
Epf也狠狠的丢票走人。
Fgv最近价钱掉得像大便纸，就是因为fgv业绩不好。epf狠狠丢票。完全不帮fgv扶盘咯。

Epf也趁油价暴跌，狂吸oil and gas 公司票。上两个月油价反弹，乘机套利，丢票oil and gas.狠狠帮大家赚一笔。

大多数epf交易都是substantial shareholder 身份，所以epf全部交易记录都有在bursa公布。

白纸黑字记录在案，epf是本地股市的大庄家之一。
当然有烧到手的时候，但大多数时候都是，每年都狠狠的赚。