SAR-21的弱點

isaachiew

上次ENDWAR說過M4A1殺傷力不足. 干嘛? 想影射我們買錯槍嗎?我也不喜歡M4A1﹐因為容易JAM。
我想講的是﹐SAR-21也好不到哪裡去。5.56mmx45 子彈本來就是這樣。別以為SAR-21很厲害。而且﹐你在侮辱你的美國大哥啊﹐小弟弟!

There are seven problems with the SAR-21 and its carbine form.
The biggest one is that it cannot be used by left-handed people. It's of a bullpup design, see, and if lefties use it, empty brass will fly into their face. There's no conversion for left-handed people right now, so left handed people have to use their left eye to aim, and fire from their right shoulder. It's highly unnatural…hell, I tried doing it once, and damned near sprained my neck. According to a left-handed soldier, it took him dozens of live-fire sessions before he could hit one target.

新加坡是嚴重城市化的國家。如果不能用左手來射擊﹐那麼不就限制了你們的射擊角度?那麼不就等於敵人只要從右邊攻擊就可以輕鬆幹掉小新兵?

先不說左敝子只佔人數的15%.如果你靠著右邊的角落﹐不就要用到左手射擊嗎?難道要用右手邊射擊來暴露自己?在城市戰這樣會讓很多3G兵小命不保。

"The next is its so-called safety. It has two safety…buttons, I guess, a little like the Thompson M1921 and its successors…though it really should be called 'Auto Ordnance'. Anyway, the safety device is at the rear end of the handguard. It can be engaged and disengaged just by pushing the protruding end. The second button is really a fire selection switch. However, the bloody thing's in the stock, so you have to take your left hand off the handguard to switch between semiautomatic and full auto. In a firefight, the delay is long enough to get you killed, especially if you're ambushed. I prefer the M16's safety: it's very instinctive and very fast.

幹嘛要用兩個保險啊﹖M4/M16系統只要用我們的大拇指就可以切換保險/半自動/全自動射擊了。如果你們被伏擊﹐唉。。。。。。。

"The third problem is with the sights. It uses a 1.5x sight that is pre-zeroed at the factory, and is one of the best sights I've ever seen. However, there are no good iron sights, just the pistol sights mounted on the 1.5x sight. I mean, for CQB, you can use the crude sights, but what if the optical sight breaks in open combat? Frankly speaking, you'll be screwed. Also, in cold weather, the sights will fog up…and the same thing will happen if you fire sixty rounds through it at full auto. An assault rifle should be able to be used in all weather conditions, not just in some.

這個故事告訴我們﹐不會製造槍械就不要亂亂製造。我們淘汰的STEYR-AUG也是這樣。我們能快快換﹐你們不能。你們換的話就虧大本了。

"The fourth is its laser sight. The bloody thing can be knocked out of true just by a hard blow to the handguard. Imagine what would happen in wartime.

世界上有哪個軍隊放雷射燈在步槍上﹖新加坡, 為何﹖因為太多人視力不好。用LASER比較方便。

不如放戰術手電筒更好﹖雷射瞄準器根本無助於贏得戰爭。

"The fifth problem is that it's incompatible with the M203 grenade launcher we're using. Now, a modified version called the CIS 40 has to be built so that the SAR-21 can be fitted with a grenade launcher. Hell, a laser sight is incorporated into the CIS 40, since it blocks off the original one.

還要花大錢研發榴彈發射器﹖STEYR-AUG只要稍微改裝都可以用。新槍應該能匹配舊的配件。這樣才符合經濟效益。

"The sixth problem is with the MMS. I mean, standard issue MMS carbines come with a CCTV (closed circuit television) fitted on its accessory rail, a HWS (Holographic Weapon Sight) on top of the CCTV, a pistol grip, a bipod, and another CCTV fitted on the accessory rail below the barrel…the handguard has to be removed, Ding, in case you're wondering. It's replaced with some sort of platform built of polymer and fitted with that rail. If necessary, the bipod can be replaced with a laser. Now, that makes three or four sights that you have to zero to point of aim. That's bloody tedious. Plus, the CCTVs only work if they're connected to a wearable computer, which is connected to some sort of monitor fitted to the soldier's helmet. That adds weight, and reduces peripheral vision in CQB.

我們要歸零一個瞄準鏡已經夠辛苦了﹐你們竟然要4個?

"The final problem follows. The gun is of a bullpup design, right? So is the MMS. Now, it's touted to be able to fire around corners with the CCTV equipped, right? If the corner turns to the right, you've got a problem. The ejection port is facing you, and is in your face or chest. If you pull the trigger, that's where the brass will land. And, in accordance with Murphy's Law, the brass casing may land inside your clothing, and you'll have to remove it before it burns a hole in either your or your uniform, or both. For conventional arms, the ejection port is facing your arm or the wall, so it's not so bad."

這個部份太爆笑﹐我不想翻譯。

新加坡人寫的喔。可不是我虛構的。雖然是軍事小說﹐不過可是筆者的經驗喔。

That's why we don't use the SAR-21 or the MMS unless necessary. I'd rather stick with our M4A1s.

M4A1不過是DIRECT INPINGEMENT所導致的可靠性問題。只要換成M468就可以鳥。。。。。不過我們馬來西亞買錯新槍了。應該買HK468的。 不然你們買以色列的CORNER SHOT好了。

簡單就是美。SAR-21打遠OK﹐不過遇到側風﹐一樣也是浪費子彈。打近的﹐射速又不高。買M4A1啦你們。。。。。。。

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endwar223

回复 1# isaachiew


    拿一个当时，年仅１４岁小孩写的故事当论据。。。你也太无聊了。

明眼人一看。。。便知道错误百出。

不能左手使用？？ 怎么看不到弹壳？

（注意枪口前方） 原来SAR－21的设计，迫使弹壳向前，而非如同M－4是向右，借此方便左手使用。

下次到陆军开放日去亲自试一试吧。。。

不能装M203？

thesun

其实Sar 21 还有很多改进的空间，谦受益，满朝损。sar21 不方便左手和安全/单发/连发 的缺点在新加坡航空展推出的sar 21A上作了很多改良。U100都出到第五代了。MK5 。有缺点并不可怕，固步自封才要不得。

endwar223

回复 3# thesun


    SAR-21A

ULTIMAX 100 MK 5

wenjin1988

m4容易卡彈？？？我笑了

nanyang

一谈就高下立判了。

soonpeng-

回复 5# wenjin1988

宅男，如果没有适当的清理，尤其是 round chamber 和 detonator pin，保证你开 25-30 发子弹后肯定卡弹或者 misfire.

thesun

新加坡大街上。随便拉一个本地男人，最少都开过上千发子弹。马国人和我们谈枪，真枪都不知有几个摸过，全都是纸上谈兵。

soonpeng-

新加坡大街上。随便拉一个本地男人，最少都开过上千发子弹。马国人和我们谈枪，真枪都不知有几个摸过，全都 ...
thesun 发表于 10-4-2010 18:23

可怜的大新帝国自民，没机会开 M4A1。。。 Steyr AUG 你会用吗？？

说到纸上谈兵，咱们马国人肯定不比你们大新帝国厉害，什么入侵大马啦！新马统一啦！几架 F-15 控制东南亚领空啦！等等。。。说到天下第一？但等了这么久，贵国的豹II怎么还没开过来啊？

thesun

好彩没有，我最怕去靶场了，天没亮就要出发，zeroing , 300m walkdown ,300m rundown
day shoot 完了还要nightshoot, 射不好还要重来，搞到半夜回兵营还要擦枪。
对你们这些老百姓，开枪很刺激很好玩。对我们这些当过兵的却是苦差事。你不懂得啦。

soonpeng-

好彩没有，我最怕去靶场了，天没亮就要出发，zeroing , 300m walkdown ,300m rundown
day shoot 完了还要n ...
thesun 发表于 10-4-2010 19:32

哈哈。。。干吗啊? 小弟做过 M16A1 300m rundown shotting 无可否认，rundown shotting 用 M16 的确比较好使。。。

你问我开枪爽不爽？如果是朝着大新帝国的子弟开枪，我会爽到飞起来！

ps: 你也拿过 marksmanship course???

thesun

你又没有试过Sar21，没有做过比较，你又知M16比较好。我开过两种枪。别人我不知道但我用Sar21 成绩比较好。开枪爽？那是你没试过Breaching exercise,同时点燃两只bangalore torpedo的那种感觉。platoon live firing ,saw 在你身边 45度斜坡往上冲，tracer bullet 从你身边飞过。
300m run down 最基本新兵都要通过的。

xiaojie2886

回复 12# thesun


    小弟请教，这种xar-21，会解体吗?

Sikorsky

m16a1已经过时了吧～现在不是在用M4A1？

wenjin1988

回复 7# soonpeng-


    蒙面超人他有说吗？

你看看

“上次ENDWAR說過M4A1殺傷力不足. 干嘛? 想影射我們買錯槍嗎?我也不喜歡M4A1﹐因為容易JAM。”

驻伊拉克的美军多数都还用着它！

我知道了！就是因为他们用的M4A2时常JAM所以美军才付出惨痛的代价啊！是不是蒙面宅男？

、‘’；

wenjin1988

su30mk???有几个人驾？

潜水艇形成战斗力了没有？

后勤补给怎样？反应能力又怎样？

信息化程度又怎样？？？

人家间谍是否已经把我们摸得一清二楚？

会不会为了钱？？背叛？

Leopard 2A4 对我们的PT-91？？？

人家有预警机我能呢？

还有人家的飞行时间多少？我们的有多少？

isaachiew

好彩没有，我最怕去靶场了，天没亮就要出发，zeroing , 300m walkdown ,300m rundown
day shoot 完了还要n ...
thesun 发表于 10-4-2010 07:32 PM

你有沒有試過在馬來西亞的深山野嶺裡面﹐抱著槍睡覺﹐槍管就算抹了油﹐碰到雨水還是會生鏽﹐槍械還是卡彈﹖靶場都怕去﹐森林更不用說了。

還有﹐你們的森林跟我們的森林比起來根本就是游樂場。 進去裡面分分鐘都會發生意外﹗單單蚊子蒼蠅水蛭都夠逼瘋你。還沒提到山豬老虎大象蛇。。。。。。

thesun

马来的森林和文莱的原始森林比还差一点，新加坡当兵的最少要去三个国家，文莱是其中一个

xiaojie2886

马来的森林和文莱的原始森林比还差一点，新加坡当兵的最少要去三个国家，文莱是其中一个
thesun 发表于 10-4-2010 10:00 PM

    可悲，做军人做到训练都要寄人篱下

soonpeng-

你又没有试过Sar21，没有做过比较，你又知M16比较好。我开过两种枪。别人我不知道但我用Sar21 成绩比较好。 ...
thesun 发表于 10-4-2010 20:46

小弟是以 M16 和 Steyr AUG 来做比较， SAR 我没用过。。。