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jem467

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    BCAA是Amino acid 的1部分，amino acid提供比较全面的营养价值和vitamin

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那大大的意思是这amino max比BCAA来得强吗???
可以提供我更体面的见解吗?...谢谢...

jem467

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    BCAA主攻在3L( L-leucine, L-Isoleucine, L-Valine),并没有其他维他命在里面。

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    BCAA主攻在3L( L-leucine, L-Isoleucine, L-Valine),并没有其他维他命在里面。
jem467 发表于 13-4-2011 04:33 PM

    那3L是拿来干嘛的??

jem467

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    muscle block, energy recovery,buss hormon in naturally

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    muscle block, energy recovery,buss hormon in naturally
jem467 发表于 13-4-2011 04:53 PM

   那么 amino max呢? 功效在哪里?

jem467

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    amino max是gaspari nutrition所推出的。。max的意思是顶峰。暂时amino应该是gaspari德amino max8000.没有其他意思

jiachien

我想要买，几大桶，可以喝多久，
我是一个星期练两天，有练才喝的
我的goldpro喝剩下最后一杯了，感觉没什么效果

jem467

回复 23# jiachien


    这不是喝的。。。不是whey protein.是粒状，安肌酸

jiachien

回复 24# jem467
可以大概讲解下用途和食用方法吗？

jem467

回复 25# jiachien


    用途就不在讲解了，已说过了很多遍。怎么用法应人而异。我本身分成3次，早上，健身后和临睡前

jem467

一直以来都没去研究creatine,可能是自己从没去拿过，于是用了3天时间在网上去了解什么是creatine,也从中去了解每个牌子的强出。不小心认识了这个莫莫无名的牌子“All American EFX”，才发现它甚少打广告，但在美国有不错的口碑。所以今天要为大家介绍它的creatine（它的creatine应该是众多牌子里最为消费者省钱，240粒状可以用4个月，1天只服用2粒）。以下是原文 （英文），希望大家可以用少少时间去认识这个牌子creatine。在bodybuilding里有120人给予平均评价8.7分，两粒1天可以拿到这个评分是让我吃惊的。

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1瓶 = RM140 (240粒) (买3瓶免运输，只限西马，1个月只花费RM35)"
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This is the brand that started is all on June 4th, 2002 when Kre-Alkalyn® was awarded United States manufacturing patent #6,399,661.
Kre-Alkalyn® EFX is "buffered" creatine that does not convert into creatinine prior to reaching skeletal muscle tissue. It is packaged in a purple capsule that can be administered orally. Kre-Alkalyn® EFX is manufactured exclusively by All American Pharmaceutical Corporation.

Many bodybuilders, and even some supplement companies, still don‘t know what scientists have already known for decades: creatine is chemically unstable in liquids. Its molecules rapidly convert to creatinine - a useless "bio-waste" - once activated with fluids or in your stomach acids. You‘re left with fewer active creatine molecules and, even worse, potential side-effects that can all but wreck your training or performance!
Now what if creatine could be completely stabilized? It would mean no need to load or cycle. And you‘d only need a small amount since the full dose could finally reach your muscle cells intact. Best of all, it would eliminate any chance for all those nasty side effects!

The research behind Kre-Alkalyn® EFX's patent proves that creatine's speed of conversion or breakdown into creatinine (a mostly useless byproduct) is directly related to its pH - the lower the pH, the faster it converts. Furthermore, the conversion rates slow dramatically as the pH of the creatine is raised above 7 and stops completely above pH 12.

Here's why: A pH level above 12 represents the perfect ratio of Hydrogen ions to Hydroxyl ions to stop the chemical reaction of: Creatine + H20 = Creatinine.
The unique "buffering" agents in Kre-Alkalyn®® EFX effectively mop up the excess Hydrogen ions and prevent them from lowering pH. In other words, it gives creatine the ability to resist changes in pH that it normally doesn't have.
This protects the creatine molecules during transport - delivering them intact to the bloodstream so they can reach your muscle cells with 100% potency. That's the power of pH-Xact™ delivery technology!


The rationale behind Kre-Alkalyn® EFX is "creatine on demand", i.e., at the times your body needs it, which is why it requires "no loading". Taken 1 or 1.5 hours prior to physical exercise, Kre-Alkalyn® provides all the needed creatine into the blood stream, ready to enter muscle cells. At low doses (1.5 – 3 grams) Kre-Alkalyn® boosts endurance and training capacity for up to three hours. Most importantly, Kre-Alkalyn® results in strength and performance enhancement without water retention or any of the other common side-effects. Here finally was the perfect creatine.



Twenty-four members of the Bulgarian National Weightlifting Team were selected to participate in a landmark double-blind clinical study comparing Kre- Alkalyn® to standard creatine monohydrate. The final results were shocking!
In just 60 days, the Kre-Alkalyn® group experienced an overall average strength increase of 28.5% above those in the creatine monohydrate group! Remember, these weren‘t "newbies". They were all world-class competitors.
Think about it. If Kre-Alkalyn® worked this well for these elite Olympic athletes, just imagine what it could do for you!



1. pH-Xact™ Delivery Technology: Ensures optimal bio-availability of our formulas by giving them the precise pH levels necessary to rapidly shuttle nutrients to the bloodstream with maximum potency. Remember, it's not how much you take, it‘s how much you absorb!
2. Buchi Analytical: This seal is our product testing guarantee. Look for it on our full range of AAEFX physique and performance products. You deserve to have complete confidence that our products are 100% legit.
3. BioCeuticals Research & Development: An independent lab fully screens our products for 16 banned substances down to parts per billion...and some down to parts per trillion!
So are you ready to put an end to side effects and poor results from "old school" creatine technology? Wouldn't you like to "Get The Body Without The Bloat"?

When Bodybuilders And Athletes Don't Get The Results
They Want From Creatine, This Is What They Do...

They Make The Switch to Kre-Alkalyn® EFX
By All American EFX: The Patent Holder's Original Brand.

For Best Results:

• On Training Days...Take 1-2 capsules with pre and post workout meals.
• On "Off" days...Take 1-2 capsules with breakfast.
• Stick With The First and Original: Use Kre-Alkalyn® EFX!

jem467

我本身比较喜欢粒状，粉状不是不好，只是拿捏的份量不准。粒状1粒就是肯定了多少份量在里面，不会跑位。。今天介绍的creatine虽然是粒状，但比粉装还便宜。大家可以回去看看自己的creatine（粉装）1天要拿几serving..就可以算到了

jiachien

健美营养 -漫谈肌酸新用途

肌酸（Creatine）是一种存在于肉类和鱼类食品中的天然物质。在人体内，可以由精氨酸（Arginine）、甘氨酸(Glycine)和甲硫氨酸 (Methionine)为前体，在肝脏、肾脏和胰脏内源性合成肌酸，所以肌酸也是天然地存在于我们机体的营养素。人体中95%的肌酸都存在于骨骼肌中，另外5%存在于其他部分，含量最高的是心脏、脑和睾丸。
    1832年，一名叫Chevreul的法国化学家首先在人体中发现了肌酸。在随后的一百多年里，各国科学家对肌酸进行了多方面的研究。目前发现肌酸对人体主要的作用是为骨骼肌提供更多能量，增加肌肉力量并促进肌肉细胞生长。骨骼肌的能量来自三磷酸腺苷（ATP）的分解，人体内的ATP储存量很少，需要不断的合成。ATP合成速度慢，就会影响到骨骼肌的收缩能力并可引起疲劳。补充肌酸可有效地提高肌肉中肌酸和磷酸肌酸的含量，并可为ATP的合成提供原料，有效地改善肌力、速度和耐力。

    肌酸自1993年开始进入竞技体育界，主要应用于提高运动员的运动能力并促使肌肉增长。之后，肌酸也被扩大使用到医学领域，用以治疗与能量有关或与神经有关的疾病。Earnest等1996年的研究发现，对于心力衰竭的患者，补充肌酸可通过降低氨和乳酸的聚集改善骨骼肌的新陈代谢，并能降低血浆总胆固醇及甘油三脂水平。2000年，Felber等人发现，患有肌营养不良的病人（包括成年人和儿童）补充肌酸能提高其肌肉力量。

    除了运动员和某些临床病人，还有不少人群会特别需要补充肌酸，比如中老年人群。人的肌力在四五十岁以后就逐渐减弱，尤其爆发力下降得更快，根据统计六十五岁到八十岁之间的健康老人，平均每年肌力下降1%～2%，爆发力下降3%～4%。所以因疾病或高龄而造成肌肉萎缩的中老年人，通过适量补充肌酸，增加肌力和蛋白合成，一定程度上能减轻肌肉萎缩的症状。另外，某些素食者或肉食相对偏少的人群，他们对于甲硫氨酸的摄入会相对不足，从而影响了自身合成肌酸的能力，为了身体健康的需要，这部分人群也应该额外补充外源性肌酸。当人体肌酸缺乏时，可能会由于机体能量代谢部分受障碍而出现头昏脑胀、神疲乏力和明显的疲劳感，有时还会出现心脏性早搏、性功能衰退或下降、味觉异常或由于消化功能不良而导致的口臭等。

    天然肌酸存在于鱼、肉等食物中，但数量很少，1公斤牛肉只能提供大约4克肌酸。要帮助肌肉生长，肌酸每日的摄取量至少应为5-20克，必须吃下1.25至5公斤牛肉，这对于常人来说是不可能的，因此才出现肌酸补剂。  

    大部分普通人群对肌酸不是很熟悉，所以对于使用肌酸补剂还存在着顾虑。对此我们应该明确：肌酸不是激素，它与类固醇、生长激素、睾酮有着本质的不同，肌酸是通过人体的肝脏来实现它的功能，对人体的内分泌系统不造成任何干扰和破坏。有研究表明，短期补充肌酸是安全的，对于长期补充肌酸的影响目前还不清楚，不过至今尚未有确切的证据证明肌酸补充对人体的肝脏和肾脏代谢有不良影响。从谨慎的角度考虑，建议肾功能有损的患者避免使用肌酸，而对于其他人群来说，肌酸是一种安全的营养补剂。

    目前市场上的肌酸产品，其主要类型有三种：磷酸肌酸、柠檬酸肌酸以及一水肌酸。磷酸肌酸不太容易被身体吸收，增肌效果不是很明显；柠檬酸肌酸的实验反馈较少，无法确知其效果如何；现在最普遍的研究都是关于一水肌酸的。另外还有无水肌酸和苹果酸肌酸等产品问世，但其效果究竟如何还有待考证。不管怎样，我们可以肯定一点，即肌酸产品的效果好坏关键在于其纯度高低，与存在形式并无太大关联。高纯度的肌酸至少要达到99.9%的含量。

    一水肌酸是肌酸中的经典产品，高纯度的一水肌酸杂质少，溶解度好，利于吸收。现在厂商们围绕它不断推出增强型产品——复合型肌酸。复合型肌酸的作用原理是根据肌酸吸收受胰岛素释放的影响，采用葡萄糖作为促进胰岛素释放的因素，与肌酸按一定比例混合服用。据研究表明，肌酸与以低聚糖为主的混合糖混合服用可以明显改善肌酸的吸收。这也是目前应用最广泛和最安全可靠的肌酸补充形式。通过刺激胰岛素释放帮助肌酸的吸收是种常用方法。有些产品除了使用葡萄糖，还添加了其他成分来加强促进胰岛素的释放。例如硫辛酸（ALA）、“D-松醇(D-pinitol)”、4-羟基异亮氨酸(4- hydroxyisoleucine)等。 其实肌酸配方的种种改进，主旨是增强肌酸的吸收。核心没有变，还是一水肌酸。可见，高纯度的一水肌酸目前仍是大众最经济、最安全的选择。

上网找的关于creatine的质料，
LZ那么吃这个我们是不是还要喝protein？

jem467

回复 3# jiachien


    还是需要的，因为我说过了，我们的肚子可以装下多少份量的蛋白质和炭水化合物的食物，可能你可以以鸡蛋蛋白来代替protein supplement.

jem467

今天说介绍的creatine是为消费者省钱，1种supplement能不能见效最后看回本身的运动方法和运动量。运动量大的人往往比较能吸收所喝下或吃下的supplement,因为你的肌肉和神经反应会快速的从液体和胶囊中吸收来帮助肌肉的成长。食物不能快速消化，可能会要用4-5个小时来分解，所以会有今天supplement的出现。

jem467

controlled labs的研究一向以creatine,natural anabolic,pump,anti-oxigen为主，今天介绍的是advance creatine(capsule).以下是controlled labs对这产品的介绍和data sheet


Green Bulge is the most advanced creatine matrix volumizer ever to reach the market. It combines Magnesium Creatine Chelate (MCC), a patented form of creatine, with Dicreatine Malate (2CM) to deliver synergistic benefits. Magnesium Creatine Chelate has been shown in clinical trials to boost strength significantly after just 2 weeks.

Key Attributes:

• Synergistic Creatine Formula
• Convenient and Potent Capsule Delivery
• Improved Strength and Stamina
• Enhance Performance and Muscle Recovery
• Caffeine Free/Stimulant Free

REFERENCES

1. Selsby JT, DiSilvestro RA, Devor ST. Mg2+-creatine chelate and a low-dose creatine supplementation regimen improve exercise performance. J Strength Cond Res. 2004 May;18(2):311-5. 2. Brilla LR, Giroux MS, Taylor A, Knutzen KM. Magnesium-creatine supplementation effects on body water. Metabolism. 2003 Sep;52(9):1136-40. 3. Fukuhiro Y, Wowk M, Ou R, Rosenfeldt F, Pepe S. Cardioplegic strategies for calcium control: low Ca(2+), high Mg(2+), citrate, or Na(+)/H(+) exchange inhibitor HOE-642. Circulation. 2000 Nov 7;102(19 Suppl 3)II319-25. 4. Lamb GD, Stephenson DG. Effect of Mg2+ on the control of Ca2+ release in skeletal muscle fibres of the toad. J Physiol. 1991 Mar;434:507-28.

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回复  jiachien


    用途就不在讲解了，已说过了很多遍。怎么用法应人而异。我本身分成3次，早上，健 ...
jem467 发表于 18-4-2011 09:31 AM

    有位朋友告诉我这种是一天共服用十粒嘞, before & after,...那不是会撑得很辛苦吗???
还是他在老点我呢???

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一直以来都没去研究creatine,可能是自己从没去拿过，于是用了3天时间在网上去了解什么是creatine,也从中去了 ...
jem467 发表于 21-4-2011 10:06 AM

    是不是服了这个, 我们就不必再浪费钱买粉状creatine如gaspari的sizeon/muscletech的celltech/BSN的cellmass了呢?
那真的省下很多了...考虑考虑....

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我现在BEFORE是喝着BSN的NO-Xplode ,而AFTER是喝BSN的CELLMASS...
那我还可以在这其间服用这个AMINO MAX吗? 会有什么问题吗? 一起服用会有反效果吗?