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僵尸题材《H1Z1》

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发表于 24-1-2015 06:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 megablue 于 24-1-2015 06:43 PM 编辑
伪君子 发表于 24-1-2015 03:15 PM
值得买吗?
说到底感觉和Dayz或7 day to die有点重叠.
我本身买了7 day to die, 所以还在考虑中~~

聽說這遊戲early access的評語很差,被很都玩家吊到翻... 而且不少玩家已經要求退款。

而且pay to win的成分很重。

沒花錢更本玩不了的遊戲。
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发表于 24-1-2015 07:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
megablue 发表于 24-1-2015 06:35 PM
聽說這遊戲early access的評語很差,被很都玩家吊到翻... 而且不少玩家已經要求退款。

而且pay to win ...

如果他說的都是真的,那我覺得這並不算是p2w。
I'm going to weigh in here on this subject. We've been showing it clearly in all of the streams we have been doing. I made a point of personally doing it during last Friday's streams. We want them to be server events... so we make sure the whole server knows they're coming and I've personally been killed many times after I paid for them myself. So I fundamentally disagree with the argument. In terms of us not being honest about it - untrue to an extreme. Quoting an 8 month old reddit post after numerous streams and interviews where we've been quite public AND putting it front and center in our "What to expect document" which was right on the purchase page just makes this blatantly unfair IMO.  or you can just go back to the steam page. So if you think it's P2W don't buy it. Don't play it. But I have to say wait until you've personally tried them before making the call. We included airdrops in both the $20 and the $40 versions just so you could see for yourselves. But to clear up the misconceptions - 1) You cannot call in airdrops until the servers are 1/4 full. 2) You can't call in airdrops without generating a ton of zombie heat. 3) the airdrops are random in what they deliver. 4) you are not guaranteed to get a single thing out of the airdrop you called in. You could die trying and you're out the money. 5) We fly the plane in very slowly and loudly.. we also stream green smoke from it you can see from very far away. This is all I'm going to say on the subject. We've been straight about it. We've called attention to it publicly and it's something we've decided we want in the game. It makes it more fun. It can shake things up. Please don't judge based on knee jerk reactions. Try it. Or watch more streams with people doing it.
Now with all that being said - we're going to be making some big changes to them in the next day or so.
1) Dramatically widening the radius they come in - it's too small from what we're observing. 2) Making sure the chance for guns is a much lower chance so they are much more rare. 3) Upping the minimum number of people on a server to even allow air drops. It's set at 50 right now and we're going to at least double it. We are serious about these being server events and contested. 4) Making the plane fly even slower.
Smed

http://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1/comments/2slbmc/airdrops/

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发表于 24-1-2015 07:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
a490920 发表于 24-1-2015 07:17 PM
如果他說的都是真的,那我覺得這並不算是p2w。I'm going to weigh in here on this subject. We've been  ...

tl;dr;  
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发表于 24-1-2015 07:52 PM | 显示全部楼层

1) You cannot call in airdrops until the servers are 1/4 full
2) You can't call in airdrops without generating a ton of zombie heat.
3) the airdrops are random in what they deliver.
4) you are not guaranteed to get a single thing out of the airdrop you called in. You could die trying and you're out the money.
5) We fly the plane in very slowly and loudly.. we also stream green smoke from it you can see from very far away.


we're going to be making some big changes to them in the next day or so.
1) Dramatically widening the radius they come in - it's too small from what we're observing.
2) Making sure the chance for guns is a much lower chance so they are much more rare.
3) Upping the minimum number of people on a server to even allow air drops. It's set at 50 right now and we're going to at least double it. We are serious about these being server events and contested.
4) Making the plane fly even slower.


我有到H1Z1的steam page看review,發現較新的bad review有不少都是因爲呼喚airdrop的人因得不到airdrop(離自己太遠,讓其他玩家捷足先登)而投訴的。
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发表于 24-1-2015 08:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
a490920 发表于 24-1-2015 07:17 PM
如果他說的都是真的,那我覺得這並不算是p2w。I'm going to weigh in here on this subject. We've been  ...

还有一种没有错的话是crate,可以直接拿到item(很多人觉得还是一样pay to win).
大多数人退款的原因是server爆满。

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发表于 24-1-2015 08:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
其實遊戲就是遊戲 認真你就輸 你問我好不好玩 我覺得還不錯~ rm38 ok的~ 生存遊戲本來就好花很多時間慢慢玩....有時間就玩吧
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发表于 24-1-2015 08:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
UnknownNewbie 发表于 24-1-2015 08:15 PM
还有一种没有错的话是crate,可以直接拿到item(很多人觉得还是一样pay to win).
大多数人退款的原 ...

crate不是airdrop的東西嗎??
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发表于 24-1-2015 08:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
a490920 发表于 24-1-2015 08:27 PM
crate不是airdrop的東西嗎??

25 Event Tickets, 3 Airdrop tickets, 6 Crates, 4 Keys and the exclusive Aviator Hat Crafting Recipe

刚刚查了一下,原来里面只有skin(衣服,裤子等等.....)
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发表于 24-1-2015 08:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
这个review不错
DayZ:

- Zombies go through walls
- If a zombie aggroes you it will chase you across the entire map
- You fall from the stairs you die
- You fall from a ladder you die
- You get ambushed by a freshspawn, you try to pull out your gun but it doesn't *** king work and you get knocked out
- Running Simulator, they added 1 crappy buggy truck after a year, wow
- 50 slot servers
- Lag, desync
- Almost no crafting at all
- Their excuse for every bug in the game is "IT'S AN ALPHA, IT'S AN ALPHA" and they repeat it like mantra

It had much promise but after a year of broken promises it's still a pile of garbage.


H1Z1:

- Zombies act like zombies, they are stupid and slow but dangerous in groups
- They don't glitch through walls
- I never heard of anyone dying because he was running on stairs like in DayZ
- There is way less guns so people are more careful and more likely to be friendly
- No server hopping (your character is tied to a server) so no easy looting between servers
- VEHICLES
- 200 slot servers
- Lag isn't a deciding factor in combat like in DayZ
- Full blown crafting system with tons of stuff to craft
- Basebuilding
- more sticks
- more blackberries

然后7 days to die呢~我没看过砍一棵树也要用这么久的时间的游戏,老子用的是石斧!
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发表于 29-1-2015 11:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
在朋友的慫恿下

我不小心買了H1Z1
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发表于 29-1-2015 11:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
剛剛看了一個twitch 這根本是PVP
那條友一直找路人殺
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发表于 30-1-2015 12:38 AM | 显示全部楼层
poisonsoup 发表于 29-1-2015 11:21 PM
剛剛看了一個twitch 這根本是PVP
那條友一直找路人殺

這樣才有Walking Dead的feel

P/S:聽說有PvE server

P/S#2: registration/login server down 買了還不能玩
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发表于 4-2-2015 12:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
感觉这个很难玩的吧?就一直要找东西的呢
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发表于 8-2-2015 02:19 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 poisonsoup 于 8-2-2015 02:32 AM 编辑


來看這個超好笑
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发表于 13-2-2015 11:23 AM | 显示全部楼层

对话超爆笑,对这游戏很有兴趣
请问会难玩吗??? 在那可以买到??

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发表于 13-2-2015 01:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
路人A 发表于 13-2-2015 11:23 AM
对话超爆笑,对这游戏很有兴趣
请问会难玩吗??? 在那可以买到??

http://store.steampowered.com/app/295110/
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发表于 13-2-2015 03:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
poisonsoup 发表于 13-2-2015 01:55 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/295110/

谢谢你,买下来试玩5G。
版主你也在玩着? 可以交流下吗??
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发表于 13-2-2015 03:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
路人A 发表于 13-2-2015 03:03 PM
谢谢你,买下来试玩5G。
版主你也在玩着? 可以交流下吗??

我没买
@megablue他有买
你跟他交流一下

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发表于 13-2-2015 03:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
poisonsoup 发表于 13-2-2015 03:34 PM
我没买
@megablue他有买
你跟他交流一下

好的,今晚可以试玩了。。

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发表于 13-2-2015 06:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
今晚买来玩, 难得我real life朋友有兴趣
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