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发表于 20-11-2010 09:48 AM
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话回到peggy_str最初的问题。舍利弗已解脱三界六道。为何佛陀授记他成佛,名号叫华光如来?
按照大乘经典的看法,只要未入无余涅盘,阿罗汉在世发阿耨多罗三邈三菩提心仍可以成佛。
素还真 发表于 19-11-2010 10:04 PM 
经文中提到,佛陀授记舍利弗于未来世成佛。
这意味着舍利弗在当世不入无余涅盘,继续轮回修行成佛? |
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发表于 20-11-2010 10:07 AM
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经文中提到,佛陀授记舍利弗于未来世成佛。
这意味着舍利弗在当世不入无余涅盘,继续轮回修行成佛?
peggy_str 发表于 20-11-2010 09:48 AM 
应该不再有分段生死(轮回),没有入灭,住世供养诸佛,修行直到成佛。 |
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发表于 21-11-2010 02:14 PM
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应该不再有分段生死(轮回),没有入灭,住世供养诸佛,修行直到成佛。
素还真 发表于 20-11-2010 10:07 AM 
分段生死是轮回的意思?
没有轮回,没有入灭,如何住世? |
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发表于 21-11-2010 07:47 PM
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回复 44# peggy_str
这要向弥勒菩萨请教,又或者待来生佛陀出生成道后,向佛陀请教。 |
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发表于 21-11-2010 07:58 PM
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回复 peggy_str
这要向弥勒菩萨请教,又或者待来生佛陀出生成道后,向佛陀请教。
素还真 发表于 21-11-2010 07:47 PM 
没诚意的回答。 |
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发表于 21-11-2010 08:05 PM
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回复 46# peggy_str
以前私自回过你了,你忘记就说明你以前开始就没有诚意想知道。 |
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发表于 22-11-2010 09:05 AM
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回复 peggy_str
以前私自回过你了,你忘记就说明你以前开始就没有诚意想知道。
素还真 发表于 21-11-2010 08:05 PM 
以前回过了?多久以前?
嗯。。我记得你有简略地说过分段生死,但印象中好像没提过如何住世哦~ |
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发表于 22-11-2010 09:56 AM
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本帖最后由 素还真 于 22-11-2010 09:58 AM 编辑
回复 48# peggy_str
对你而言这些知识都不重要,跟你追求的目标无关,又何必问?
这个主题说到这里就刚好了。或许清池有兴趣来转贴下。
另外假如真的在禅定有所建树,亲自去向天界的大菩萨请教不是更好吗?
我的回答算不了什么。你心里想什么你最清楚。对我而言假如听到人诚意不足,又或者听到人另有目的,我又何必说呢?
我见过那些告诉我他们很单纯的人,其实都不单纯。
既然如此,不如各走各路。 |
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发表于 22-11-2010 10:24 AM
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回复 peggy_str
另外假如真的在禅定有所建树,亲自去向天界的大菩萨请教不是更好吗?
我的回答算不了什么。你心里想什么你最清楚。对我而言假如听到人诚意不足,又或者听到人另有目的,我又何必说呢?
我见过那些告诉我他们很单纯的人,其实都不单纯。
素还真 发表于 22-11-2010 09:56 AM 
你自己有没有亲自去天界见过菩萨?
如果没有的话,为什么叫人"亲自去向天界的大菩萨请教不是更好"?
就向看到有人要游过很深的河,你自己都没有试过游水过河,却去叫人游水过河一样。等下人家什么都不懂,游不过去,反而去了荷兰,这么办哦?
不是别人单不单纯的问题,是人家格外小心、想求证而已......
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Extract from Lohicca Sutta
"There is the case where a certain teacher has not attained the goal of the contemplative life for which one goes forth from the home life into homelessness. He, not having attained that goal of the contemplative life, teaches his disciples, 'This is for your welfare. This is for your happiness.' His disciples don't listen, don't lend ear, don't put forth an intent for gnosis. They practice in a way deviating from the teacher's instructions. He should be criticized, saying, 'You, venerable sir, have not attained the goal of the contemplative life for which one goes forth from the home life into homelessness. Not having attained that goal of the contemplative life, you teach your disciples, "This is for your welfare. This is for your happiness." Your disciples don't listen, don't lend ear, don't put forth an intent for gnosis, and practice in a way deviating from the teacher's instructions. It's just as if a man were to pursue [a woman] who pulls away, or to embrace one who turns her back. I say that such a thing is an evil, greedy deed, for what can one person do for another?' This is the first teacher who is worthy of criticism in the world, and when anyone criticizes this sort of teacher, the criticism is true, factual, righteous, & unblameworthy.
"Then there is the case where a certain teacher has not attained the goal of the contemplative life for which one goes forth from the home life into homelessness. He, not having attained that goal of the contemplative life, teaches his disciples, 'This is for your welfare. This is for your happiness.' His disciples listen, lend ear, put forth an intent for gnosis, and practice in a way not deviating from the teacher's instructions. He should be criticized, saying, 'You, venerable sir, have not attained the goal of the contemplative life for which one goes forth from the home life into homelessness. Not having attained that goal of the contemplative life, you teach your disciples, "This is for your welfare. This is for your happiness." Your disciples listen, lend ear, put forth an intent for gnosis, and practice in a way not deviating from the teacher's instructions. It's just as if a man, neglecting his own field, were to imagine that another's field should be weeded. I say that such a thing is an evil, greedy deed, for what can one person do for another?' This is the second teacher who is worthy of criticism in the world, and when anyone criticizes this sort of teacher, the criticism is true, factual, righteous, & unblameworthy. |
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发表于 22-11-2010 10:44 AM
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回复 50# 洁净清新
呵呵,那这里谁人有涅磐过?既然没有又干嘛谈解脱道?
亲自向菩萨请教,这个提议不是空谈或推却责任,完全视乎一个人有没有能力。
至于本人有没有见过菩萨,不需要对任何人说。 |
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发表于 22-11-2010 11:19 AM
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回复 51# 素还真
亲自体验、了解涅磐是绝对可以办得到的。这里有很多善知识,都有了对涅磐正确的了解,对于有益和无益的东西都可以辨认,对灭苦的道路是坚持不动摇,一直不断学习直到解脱。 |
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发表于 22-11-2010 11:26 AM
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回复 52# 洁净清新
亲自向菩萨请教比涅磐更容易办到呢。既然比较容易办到,干嘛不去办? |
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发表于 22-11-2010 11:48 AM
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回复 53# 素还真
不是,你没有讲你办得到,或者是你根本证明不到呢?
而八正道,是随时可以被你体证,干嘛不去办啊,佛弟子? |
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发表于 22-11-2010 11:49 AM
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本帖最后由 三法印 于 22-11-2010 02:16 PM 编辑
亲自向菩萨请教??
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这个很容易的...去神庙叫主持"跳神", 请观音娘娘来问佛法 |
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发表于 22-11-2010 01:05 PM
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本帖最后由 山野草夫 于 22-11-2010 01:07 PM 编辑
凡夫,要辨别菩萨非易事。 |
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发表于 22-11-2010 01:18 PM
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本帖最后由 素还真 于 22-11-2010 01:20 PM 编辑
回复 素还真
不是,你没有讲你办得到,或者是你根本证明不到呢?
而八正道,是随时可以被你体证,干 ...
洁净清新 发表于 22-11-2010 11:48 AM 
不要未学会爬,就想学飞。
很多人讲得很有志气,要求他达到比较低的层次,就诸多理由。
再退一步,禅定有建树的人亲自问天人过去佛陀有没有说大乘佛法。
等下就会出现这样的回应:
怎样知道天人不是说谎。
你没有没有跟天人沟通过。
扶鸾。。。。
人就是这样,叫他们达到实践目标就怕,讲就讲到很厉害。 |
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发表于 22-11-2010 01:23 PM
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凡夫,要辨别菩萨非易事。
山野草夫 发表于 22-11-2010 01:05 PM 
禅修有所成就的人有几多呢?
随便问问,修到二三禅的人好像大有人在,可是要他们去欲界天就办不到。 |
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发表于 22-11-2010 01:57 PM
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本帖最后由 洁净清新 于 22-11-2010 02:09 PM 编辑
不要未学会爬,就想学飞。
很多人讲得很有志气,要求他达到比较低的层次,就诸多理由。
再退一步,禅 ...
素还真 发表于 22-11-2010 01:18 PM 
八正道,是最基本的东西啊!怎么说未学会爬,就想学飞啊!!
八正道,佛弟子可以学习, 绝对经的得起考验,等着你今生今世、在地球上体验!!那么确实的八正道,你不要糊涂,应该要去探讨它、学习它。
你可以和善知识学习,可以参考经典,可以自己不断探讨和辨别,绝对可以现在实践, 就这样子而已。人就是这样,他们有了明确的目标,就会想勇往直前,为了达到目标就会想坚持不懈。
八正道,人类也可以说,为什么你去找天人???? |
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发表于 22-11-2010 02:40 PM
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八正道,是最基本的东西啊!怎么说未学会爬,就想学飞啊!!
八正道,佛弟子可以学习, 绝对经的得 ...
洁净清新 发表于 22-11-2010 01:57 PM 
好啦。You win. 懒得跟你纠缠。 |
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