北马区公道稱职的脚车店。。。在那儿？？？

easonchan10

我的还是自己去看多几间，然后自己衡量了。。。

kvm

刚刚从狗眼脚车店出来，满肚子气(alor setar)的，店名YXXBIKE SDN.BHD。今天穿得很普通，又驾着一辆老爷车，看脚车，问价钱时，被老板娘爱理不理的样子，长着对狗眼，不肯告诉我真正的价钱，还补多一句，你真的要我才告诉你价钱。。。真是她X的。。。这间店卖的又不是很高档的货。。。

mytouch

回复 42# kvm



   最讨厌这种店，叫她去吃大便啦！！:@

jabilcisco

lbs88: 你有多高,if 160-175 S size Bike 應該不是一個問題,what you mean ?over reach 的 MTB ?

kvm

气的是去年已经和她买一辆了，前两个月因为要upgrade，换过一辆，不过她店里面的spec全都不适合我，（里面大多数是fixie bike 和 杂牌货）,问题是我又不是“云吉“的kaki,最后唯有去买merida。昨天本来是想买一辆入门的脚车给我的爱人，怎知碰了一鼻子灰。之前老板娘应该是卖宠物或开宠物店。我个人觉得biker大多数都很friendly,耐心。卖脚车的最基本也要有这些条件，不然怎样才能吸引新手呢!

jabilcisco

lbs88
     From what I know the bike shop u mention, is one of SP bike shop have best rider member in this shop. I think both u have some communication problem, human always are not prefect, I very understand your unhappy .for me if people have sell me a wrong price, I will voice out , cause bike item too many ..Some time seller also can make it wrong price to customer.

And the (over reach 的 MTB),
Can Share with us, how high u have? 165-175 (M or S also can use it) 165-175, use S size hordtail is more on race rider.

(还有，差点忘了， 在那儿买Cycling short， 也是有被插了一刀，被摆了一道)

I think most all shop agree for max 3 time for try. Before buy.

* Some of shop sell u a thing is a bit expansive, but after sell service, is no count Ur service fee. That Mean (Gear adjustment or add gear oil etc…)

I from Penang rider...But I know this shop in SP have a good rider skill sharing and strong technical bike adjustment skill*

This sport is longer sport...Open your heart...and plays it longer.

lbs88

回复 44# jabilcisco


    174cm 应该 S 的没问题, 但是买到的是M SIZE. OVERREACH MEANS 当你在骑车时你往下看你的车把应该是在前轮轴的前面. 当你把SADDLE 尽量往前移的之后, 车把还是在前方, 那就已经HOPELESS.

lbs88

回复 46# jabilcisco


HiJabilcisco,

    PLS SEE REPLY IN RED.
     From what I know the bike shop u mention, is one of SP bike shop have best rider member in this shop. I think both u have some communication problem, human always are not prefect, I very understand your unhappy .for me if people have sell me a wrong price, I will voice out , cause bike item too many ..Some time seller also can make it wrong price to customer.

     在商言商, 不过从商应该还是有所谓的德.
     开门是 BUSINESS, 不是CHARITY. 买卖赚钱应该, 砍人坑人 this won't last, the client's is not an idiot.
      just wonder what do you mean by communication problem, human not perfect, 120% agree. but not all the error could be say never mind and forget.


     You went in to a bike shop, said the saddle I used now not any good, causing pain and numb, need the more comfy one, could you intro some nicer saddle.
     See, I got two in hand now thinking will be more comfy, this one fizik  this one velo, this one look nicer on the bike, this one slightly bigger but look ok but should be comfy.
      Aye aye, I will take the velo, how much it cost.
      Not too much, only RM 150.
      Is this the best price for me.
      Best price migo, profit margin only "lim lim"
      ok then, here my card.


      What could be wrong, just because I speak the different dialect he do not understand? bollock man.

      sometimes quote the wrong price to the customer?? another big doubt on this one. all retaill shop which do not fix the price like supermarket,  they always got their special code to know what is the minimum price. let say this LBS do not got the price tag, why... i don;t know, he should got something so call supercomputer memory, he shouldn't get wrong, and ...... another the simple method to avoid all this mistake, check the file, check DO or invoices or quotation from supplier.  What could go wrong? this ain't rocket science. and for them, they just need to look at the saddle they should know which are which what range is that, I reckon most of the biker who are long in this sport able to tell as well. not add math man !!


      you got the saddle, fix it, ya no bad, only after 2 weeks you see it else where, price tag RM89, what you reckon after the discount? say RM 80. then another day another shop, cost only RM 60...... RM 60 I consider the best buy, The shop selling RM80 still consider it very fair.

But for the shop selling it for double the price, how you going to explain that ? "oh no, in SP ha  the government imposed 100% tax to all the bike and bike related parts, that's make this price shoot up double, just like we malaysian got to pay 300% for the continental cars." another bollocks...




And the (over reach 的 MTB),
Can Share with us, how high u have? 165-175 (M or S also can use it) 165-175, use S size hordtail is more on race rider.

(还有，差点忘了， 在那儿买Cycling short， 也是有被插了一刀，被摆了一道)

I think most all shop agree for max 3 time for try. Before buy.

* Some of shop sell u a thing is a bit expansive, but after sell service, is no count Ur service fee. That Mean (Gear adjustment or add gear oil etc…)

migo, not a bit oh, not 20 30 % extra, is 100% extra. After sales services? how much that cost? gear adjustment normally happen when you got the bike just for a while then the adjustment is FOC, after that, the service could be more expensive then you send your car for services.
gear oil, which biker nowsday don't have their own lube at home??  

I from Penang rider...But I know this shop in SP have a good rider skill sharing and strong technical bike adjustment skill*

This one I got no comment, he is good or bad in riding this will not make me feel lke a pig being chop. and for the adjustment skill...... the more you adjusted and the more you modify, he will become richer and richer...... the most important skill i reckon the LBS must have is to recommended the correct bike for the user especially the new birds.

This sport is longer sport...Open your heart...and plays it longer.
migo, your last sentence..... sport is longer sport... i catch no ball really. But I know what is sportmanship, I know cycling sport is the lifelong sport. but no matter how i tried, I can figure out as the consumer being chop/ cheat / fool is related to the sportmanship or cycling. this is basic seller and buyer relationship, not only apply to the saddle I bought..make sense ????

last but not least, Open heart.... I do, I always do, Sharing is part of it, in this forum I share my bad experience and wish the other bikers will not going through the same shit again.

Cheers mate.

晚安!

lbs88

回复 44# jabilcisco
忘了, HOPELESS MEANS 荷包出血, 要换这要换那. 我换了较短的STEM, 现在下山时手不再麻. 腰也不痛了.

kvm

有那个大大可以帮我翻译上面两个鸟人在鸟些什么吗？我的英文字典都翻到快烂掉了，还是不明白！或还是有谁可以介绍那里可以补速成班的英文吗？（alor setar 区）。我相信用到红色的字，应个很火药或很严重吧！！！

jabilcisco

回复 Ibs88
     Sorry late reply ..just come back from Cameron highlands 51KM cycling off road training,woo u have a very long reply .let me simple reply u ..
   165 - 175  s or  m also ok , 当你在骑车时你往下看你的车把应该是在前轮轴的前面?? who teach you this ...HAHAH ..this is wrong la brother.
    You from bedong MTB Team?right?if yes please refer to abang cicak .you know him?what bike you use?mind to share with me ?

短的STEM more on off road DH .but all standard bike fitting by right  你往下看你的车把应该是在chun chun at your 前轮轴的後面...not too over 前轮轴 and also not too lower 前轮轴.

train more brother ... 1 day i will date you go off road at aman jaya or permaipura off road.....HAHAAHAHAHAH

sky_wei23

回复 47# lbs88

174cm高是介于S和M之间，应该没问题。。。

lz你说OVERREACH是你在骑车时你往下看你的车把应该是在前轮轴的前面，可能你骑车的姿势不对或者其他因素的setting而造成。
我觉得你应该回去那间店问清楚看什么回事，你这样快就说人家是黑店是有欠公平的。
SP,Bedong和Gurun都有很多老手，我不懂你是从多人的判断下还是一个人的说法下认为这样是对的setting。

kvm

回复 51# jabilcisco


    很明显你就是这间店的人，可能你是店主或是店主的抢手。。。。对吗。。hahaha

sky_wei23

大学都是北马区人，没有所为枪手不枪手的，大家都是骑车人！
我也是在Bedong读书的，我想你应该是和立斌他们一group的吧？

lbs88

回复 52# sky_wei23

Migo. don't talk about the size or the setting of the bike， just talk about the saddle which cost 100% extra. 单单这一项够黑了吧！ 这不应该不公平吧！！

jabilcisco

what brand your saddle?and how much u buy ?

jabilcisco

VELO 牌子，只卖你 RM150? velo what model:?

lbs88

回复 57# jabilcisco


    What model is no longer important migo !! the most important thing was I saw the same F thing in the other shop only cost half price!!!
    I reckon you must be the bike shop owner or his "gunman". initially on your post you said you are from Penang, now you invited me to ride in SP but not bukit bendera or air hitam dam !!!! and you seem like you cross the bridge all the way north to the muslim party teritorry. You are smashing man !!

   51 km cameron highlands, quality .. but nothing to do with the topic discussion, if I'm your teacher, you are consider as 离题, 零分。and for the size of the bike, I got the analysis from the specialist in Alor star, according to him one size smaller will fit me much better, and the current one he suggest the best is to shorten the stem which will make me more comfy.

     cheers.

gunnez

回复 Ibs88
     。。。当你在骑车时你往下看你的车把应该是在前轮轴的前面。。。
jabilcisco 发表于 6-11-2011 08:32 PM

Lbs不是在告诉你正确的setting.他是在告诉你他所谓overreach(脚车size太大）的情况。

sky_wei23

回复 55# lbs88


    现在市场上有很多假货，我不知道你所看到有分别吗！我觉得你应该放上照片让我们看看！没图没真相啊！