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2016Honda Civic 果然同級最強最值得買! 四驅車追尾撞擊 softzone 完美保护乘客...

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发表于 9-8-2016 09:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
就看图来讲,那xtrail,alza,也一样很快就會半價大拋售了??对吗...
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 楼主| 发表于 9-8-2016 10:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
雨伞公司CEO 发表于 9-8-2016 06:15 PM
答案真的是SUV xtrail tuk civic 屁股  情报说 xtrail 引擎漏出液体。 好奇xtrail 为什么那么好料可以用corner 准准撞下去  這個算small area crash 嗎?

小弟在15楼都说了是被车追尾斜撞,才会造成类似条状物撞击。。。
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发表于 9-8-2016 10:43 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 c.c.chong 于 9-8-2016 10:44 PM 编辑

日本牌子车,马奶人quality
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发表于 9-8-2016 11:28 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
车是架出来给别人撞的吗?不如开罗里好了!最重要是人没事,就是那么简单!
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发表于 9-8-2016 11:37 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
卖华$发達 发表于 9-8-2016 10:23 PM
小弟在15楼都说了是被车追尾斜撞,才会造成类似条状物撞击。。。

为了避免更加多人看图说故事,你还是把有xtrail 的事实图放在第一页吧
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发表于 9-8-2016 11:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 雨伞公司CEO 于 10-8-2016 01:51 AM 编辑


答案在里面
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发表于 10-8-2016 01:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 雨伞公司CEO 于 10-8-2016 01:53 AM 编辑
The 2016 Honda Civic employs selectively-tempered in-die “soft zone” technology in the B-pillars and rear frame rails, allowing zones within a single frame piece to have more ductile properties than the surrounding ultra-high-strength hot-stamped steel. The technology minimizes parts count and saves 15.6 lb (7 kg) compared to the previous-generation Civic.
“Our method of application for this [in the rear frame rail] is a world’s first,” according to Ryan Miller, Performance Development Leader for the 2016 Civic. “Full-band soft zones [such as in the B-pillar] have been done before on a few other cars, but what we’ve done that’s unique is we’ve created partial soft zones; this is much more difficult to do.”
Honda co-developed this specific application with supplier Gestamp over the past three years.
“These soft zones give us the ability to completely control the frame crush mode and prevent cracking of the frame at the same time. It’s one stamped piece of material and we control it by material property, not by thickness or any kind of tailor welding,” Miller explained.
The partial soft zones in the Civic’s rear frame rail varies from about 590-MPa advanced high-strength steel to 1500-MPa press-hardened steel.
“In a crash, we want this [part] to do an ‘accordion crush’—every bend absorbs energy. Without putting any geometric divots or anything like that in, it starts to crush here, then there, then there,” he said, pointing to the three varying soft zones. “So the whole thing ‘accordians’ up and prevents any cracking from happening in the high-strength steel. You can’t do that if you do full band, so that’s why we developed it this way.”
The process involves heating the sheet steel to 930°C (1706°F) before simultaneously stamping and cooling key areas of the part. A laser cutting trimming process then completes the component.
“During the stamping process, there’s cooling lines that are applied in just certain areas that cool the material at different rates and create a different amount of tempering. It actually creates a different material grade even though it’s still one part, one thickness, and one stamping,” he said.
The soft zones in the rear frame rail address two important issues: rigidity and weight.
“The traditional way of doing it is to use multiple parts. Body rigidity is based on section size or thickness of the material. If this was regular-grade material and we didn’t have these [soft zones], you’d have to put discontinuities in there—physical bend points to force it to bend where you want it to. Every time you do that you actually decrease the section in that area and then you lose rigidity,” Miller explained. “The other issue is that you have to absorb a given amount of energy, which means the material would have to be thicker, increasing weight. [This technology] solves those problems—it improves rigidity and reduces the weight.”
The next potential application for in-die soft zones is in the front frame rail, according to Miller. “It behaves very similarly to this [rear frame rail] except for the [crash] testing is a lot more extensive up there. Theoretically, that would be the next location.”
For more on the 2016 Civic, visit http://articles.sae.org/14351/.

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发表于 10-8-2016 01:59 AM | 显示全部楼层
好奇下。如果是xtrail 和 preve,xtrail同样的速度,preve可以顶吗?如果可以的话,
preve里面的乘客冲击大呢, 还是civic的冲击大?
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发表于 10-8-2016 02:09 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
Metcal 发表于 10-8-2016 01:59 AM
好奇下。如果是xtrail 和 preve,xtrail同样的速度,preve可以顶吗?如果可以的话,
preve里面的乘客冲击大呢, 还是civic的冲击大?

应该是Civic 车内震荡没有preve 大. Civic 的真正大骨在 soft zone之后,吸收撞击力后再遇到大骨。总之 A,B,C pillar 没有断也不算软,车骨主要是保护cabin ,如以上的图黑色Civic c pillars, cabin 完美 , preve , civic 车架设计不一样,所以你要拿比的话很难有公正的答案
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发表于 10-8-2016 04:08 AM | 显示全部楼层
gorson 发表于 9-8-2016 12:06 PM
马自达开始硬了...

其實真心不能比。。。
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发表于 10-8-2016 06:35 AM | 显示全部楼层
yeah,可能是全馬第一輛claim total lost的new civic turbo。。。。
恭喜得到第一名!!!!
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发表于 10-8-2016 08:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
XHunterOz 发表于 9-8-2016 04:28 PM
你指的city vs bmw 应该是我朋友发生的事来的  

刚好你提到就share上来

来看图说故事   http://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3481153&extra=

不是这个哦,city 是新款6gen 的
印象中是蓝色然后bm 黑色的
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发表于 10-8-2016 09:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
TamashiiHeroes 发表于 10-8-2016 08:40 AM
不是这个哦,city 是新款6gen 的
印象中是蓝色然后bm 黑色的

那就没印象了~

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发表于 10-8-2016 10:08 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 10-8-2016 10:23 AM | 显示全部楼层
雨伞公司CEO 发表于 9-8-2016 11:37 PM
为了避免更加多人看图说故事,你还是把有xtrail 的事实图放在第一页吧

主題更新了結果小弟就接到一通電話。。。本田大馬代理說要送小弟一輛
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发表于 10-8-2016 10:28 AM | 显示全部楼层
卖华$发達 发表于 10-8-2016 10:23 AM
主題更新了結果小弟就接到一通電話。。。本田大馬代理說要送小弟一輛

终于正名了,不必再代朋友询问各种详情了
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 楼主| 发表于 10-8-2016 11:23 AM | 显示全部楼层
Orochimaru 发表于 9-8-2016 07:48 PM
賣華叔一把年紀了就踏腳車去公園下下棋好啦,civic不要適合你啦

馬賽迪又買不起
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发表于 10-8-2016 11:25 AM | 显示全部楼层
卖华$发達 发表于 10-8-2016 10:23 AM
主題更新了結果小弟就接到一通電話。。。本田大馬代理說要送小弟一輛

主題美!
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 楼主| 发表于 10-8-2016 12:08 PM | 显示全部楼层
patpat69 发表于 10-8-2016 06:35 AM
yeah,可能是全馬第一輛claim total lost的new civic turbo。。。。
恭喜得到第一名!!!!

開兩次新車好像也不錯
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 楼主| 发表于 10-8-2016 12:09 PM | 显示全部楼层

車更美
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