追梦一族，教你如何控制梦，出体！（更新）清明梦禁忌，过去叙述

Wgaz

好好的活在现实....
alantiu81 发表于 11-2-2012 03:19 PM

可笑
你的生活完全没有娱乐？


和现实生活有什么关系？


这帖是要造福人群的，拜托你告诉我有啥坏处


把清明梦和现实混为一谈的人真的很好笑，自己想一想

红十八子棍

回复 1# Wgaz

我对这些很有兴趣，有时间会研究研究。很多人发梦时都很清楚梦里的环境甚至能控制梦境，但我的梦却是模糊不清的。。。

青青狼

我发现到原来清明梦真的是以练习来进入梦境的。不过过程不到10秒，就是被声音给打断

Wgaz

回复  Wgaz

我对这些很有兴趣，有时间会研究研究。很多人发梦时都很清楚梦里的环境甚至能控制梦境，但我 ...
红十八子棍 发表于 12-2-2012 02:06 AM

   训练左手、左脚（用左手刷牙、抓滑鼠等等）来增强右脑
醒来的时候简单的1分钟回忆梦+1分钟记录下来对梦境（乱写只要自己看得懂就行了，越详细越好）也很有帮助（回忆的时候维持睡觉的姿势、最好别动、闭眼）

红十八子棍

训练左手、左脚（用左手刷牙、抓滑鼠等等）来增强右脑
醒来的时候简单的1分钟回忆梦+1分钟记录 ...
Wgaz 发表于 12-2-2012 10:52 PM

谢谢了，我会训练训练。我有个做designer很会画画的朋友就是天生用左手的，他的梦境都是很清楚的。下次和他吹水时会和他谈谈这些东西。

Wgaz

我发现到原来清明梦真的是以练习来进入梦境的。不过过程不到10秒，就是被声音给打断
青青狼 发表于 12-2-2012 07:20 PM

   分为两种一种是清醒着入梦、出体
一种是做梦过程中突然知梦并控梦、疑梦后验梦知梦并控梦

心情起伏大会导致醒来，要小心假醒（不过这类情况比较少假醒），醒来后得验梦（拉指、咬指、扳指等等）（通过每天的醒后验梦，验梦也可以作为知梦扳机。对所有所见所闻事物都抱有怀疑并且验梦的话，这将会是你的知梦利器，当然大家会认为这是很疯狂的）


被外界声音打断的原因是入梦不够深。参考：刚进入清明梦就先一边搓手一边到处走走、照照镜子（这个过程最好不要动太多念，会醒。在这个过程也不要参与剧情（有人来找你就闪）不然可能会掉入普通梦）看不见的话不要慌，默念我看得见。当你觉得梦境稳定入梦深了的时候，往裤兜里掏药丸、糖果、口香糖，给它定义一种功能，然后吃下去，比如吃了可以持续1小时不掉线吃了会飞之类的，避免在掏的时候醒来，掏的时候要自然。

口香糖是延时利器

你也可以试着掏手机，掏iphone、galaxy出来  功能见此：https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=222763987808907&set=a.222295354522437.55087.221671617918144&type=1&theater

盯着手机画面看，画面就会变大了



也可以拨电话
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=222295357855770&set=a.222295354522437.55087.221671617918144&type=1&theater










有时会出现掏裤兜掏没有东西，那么就掏另一边，掏完左边掏右边，掏完右边掏左边，总会掏到的。
掏的时候可以默念:我的手机、我的药丸

Wgaz

谢谢了，我会训练训练。我有个做designer很会画画的朋友就是天生用左手的，他的梦境都是很清 ...
红十八子棍 发表于 12-2-2012 11:20 PM

不用客气

   左脑发达者也是有好处的，当在梦中发生不合理的事情时，有着比别人比较多的机会、比较大的概率疑梦，从而验梦知梦

有时验梦时会发生和现实一样的反应（咬手指会痛，扳不了手指等等）
所以最好的验梦方法是：当你怀疑你在做梦时，你99%就是在梦境里了

ivan2k

谢谢你楼主 好喜欢你的这篇文章

ivan2k

我挺你 哈哈

ivan2k

谢谢提供  加油

Wgaz

谢谢提供  加油
ivan2k 发表于 1-3-2012 12:35 AM

   多谢支持~

kclo51

需要时间来消化。。。。

Wgaz

需要时间来消化。。。。
kclo51 发表于 11-3-2012 06:15 PM

   如果有疑问的话尽管问

青青狼

A little disclaimer: There are many similarities between SILD and the other lucid dream induction methods such as WILD, MILD, etc.  In fact, if you wish, you could label SILD as a derivative of those methods, or you could simply write it off as an old method with a new name since many people may not be able to identify subtle differences.  Also I'm not sure if this name has been taken, so if it was then please let me know so I can change it to something else.

Theory

While teaching novices I realize that many popular methods share a fundamental problem.  That is, they all require too much finesse.  For example, the typical WILD techniques require proper relaxation which by itself is a difficult subject.  Another example is affirmation -- how do you do affirmation effectively?  We all know that simply chanting mantras will not do the trick.  Same goes for visualization, breathing, and the list just goes on and on.  

So basically we are looking for a method that is as effective as it is idiot-proof.  I'm happy to tell you that SILD is just such a system, and it has been proven by hundreds if not more people.  It really does work! Now what makes it tick is an entirely different matter.  I honestly don't want to pretend that I know it, but presumably it works by repeated stimulation of the various senses, thus prep the mind/body for later phase entrance and/or becoming lucid in dreams.   

One very important thing to keep in mind is that SILD is not strictly a WILD technique.  While many users report successful dream/OBE induction from the waking state, the method is extremely effective at inducing DILDs.  It really is a WILD/DILD hybrid, but I strongly suggest the users to treat it solely as a DILD technique in order to use it in the most effective manner.  I will get into this in more detail later.

Step-by-step

1. The best time to practice is after 4 or 5 hours of sleep.  You could also combine the practice with WBTB for maximum effect but it is not required.  DO NOT do this at the start of your sleep -- it will NOT work!  The only exception is afternoon naps since you enter directly into REM.

2. Repeat the following procedures 4 or 5 times.  DO NOT attempt too many repetitions even if you don't feel anything.  Remember you are not doing a WILD.  You are simply setting things up for OBEs and LDs to occur at later point.  If you repeat too many times you may risk losing sleep thus destroys the purpose.

2a) With your eyes closed, stare at the darkness behind your eyelids for 15-20 seconds.  Try to pick up any colors, lights, or images, but do not strain your eye muscle.  If you see nothing but darkness, that's fine.  Again, we are not striving to induce dreams from the waked state, so do NOT force it.  It is perfectly fine to not feel anything.   

2b) Listen to the noises in your ears for 15-20 seconds.  Chances are you will hear some light humming and buzzing sound.  See if you can hear it more clearly.  If you don't hear anything that's okay.

2c) From head to toe scan your body for any strange sensations such as heaviness, tinglings, movements, etc.  Do this for 15-20 seconds.  Again, perfectly fine if you don't feel anything strange.  Note: it will be more effective if you combine this with a bit intention to mentally increase the sensations.  For example, when you feel your toes, you may try to wiggle it without using any muscles.  This, however, should be used with caution as it may make you too awake to sleep.

The above steps should be performed in a relaxed manner, slowly, lazily, and without any rational thoughts.  The 15-20 seconds duration is for your reference only.  Do NOT count in your head!  Chances are, after a couple of repetitions you will begin to feel sleepy, to the point your mind may drift away and forget to continue the exercise.  This is perfectly okay.  Just pull your mind back a bit and resume from where you dropped off.  If you lost count of the repetitions then simply do a new set.  It won't hurt.

3. Find the most comfortable position and GO TO SLEEP as quickly as possible!  The quicker you can fall asleep the more likely you will succeed later in your dreams!

What's going to happen

Several things may happen through this exercise:

1. After you fall asleep, you may suddenly wake up with a strange sensation.  You will feel wide awake, and your body weightless. At this point just do an RC and roll out from your bed to begin an OBE.

2. You wake up with vibrations and other strange sensations. Hung onto these sensations will lead you into an OBE.

3. You suddenly become lucid in your dreams with no apparent reasons, or you may begin to suspect you are dreaming and a successful RC will put you right into a DILD.

4. You have a False Awakening.  Unlike the first experience, you may feel awake but still drowsy.  FAs will occur frequently with SILD, therefore you should get used to it and become good at identifying them.

5. A WILD or direct OBE.  Phase entrance may occur during the repetition, with your mind still awake.  When this happens, many of the sensations become amplified.  You should stop doing any further exercises; instead, begin focusing on the sensations until you successfully enter the dream.

6. If all else fails you can try this technique as a last resort. Upon waking up again, which you eventually will after step 3, try relax your head and allow it to sink into the pillow. If done correctly you will generate vibrations and enter an OBE from a fully waked state. This works because SILD has prepared your body and mind to enter a trance easily. In fact if you increase the number of repetitions you may be able to do this BEFORE you fall asleep from step 3! This is a very powerful technique -- with practice you can literally induce OBEs at will.

About me

I recently migrated to this forum from DreamView.  I have been a member of DV for many years, and my personal research and practice on the subject of LD dates back in early 90s.  Throughout the years I've recorded thousands of LDs and OBEs.  I am able to induce LDs (including OBEs but I will stick with the term LD from now on) at will, with near 100% success rate.  

Two years ago I joined a lucid dreaming forum in China, and since have become one of their prominent writers/trainers.  The forum quickly grew to over 60,000 active members.  This provided me with an excellent test bed for new ideas and experiments.  I worked closely with many hundreds of people and together we developed and refined the SILD method.  The result has been very promising.  Not only many people managed to experience the wonders of LD for the first time, many of them actually mastered the technique and succeeded on a daily basis.  Oh, for those of you who are curious, In Chinese we call this method Tai Xuan Ching  

Happy lucid dreaming!



来自http://www.ld4all.com 网站

青青狼

中文版的

《太玄功》，英文名为“Senses Initiated Lucid Dream(SILD)”，意译为“通过感官引发的清醒梦”，是目前已知的门槛最低、效率最高的清醒梦技术之一。通过简单的几组动作，即可实现清醒入梦（WILD）、出体体验（OBE）、增加梦中知梦（DILD）机率的效果。

【练习步骤】

1、睡足四到五小时后起床并清醒五分钟。

2、以舒服的姿势躺好，但是不要用你平时睡觉的姿势，因为有可能造成过快入睡。推荐平躺。

3、在三种感官中切换（视觉 -> 听觉 -> 身体的感觉）。

视觉：闭眼观看眼睑后面的黑暗空间，尝试在这片黑暗中发现色彩、光、影子、图像等等。观察十到二十秒。注意眼睛要保持放松，不要用力。

听觉：专注的倾听耳边的声音。如果环境足够安静，你应该可以听到耳边有微弱的蜂鸣声。倾听十到二十秒。

身体的感觉：体察身体异样的感觉，比如某个部位或全身感到酸、涨、麻、下沉、漂浮，旋转等等。如果感觉体察全身有困难，也可以将注意力集中到手、手指、脚、脚趾、头部、下腹部这些部位，并用意念模拟它们在动的感觉。体察十到二十秒。

注意：不要去纠结是否能看到东西、听到声音、或者感受到身体的异样，意念模拟不出身体的动作也没有任何关系。什么都感受不到、模拟不出来才是最正常的。照做这几个动作就行了。

4、将以上的感官切换动作重复四到八组。注意，切换的时候，不要机械的去做。时间长短无所谓，也不要求固定的节奏，越散漫越好。随着这些动作的重复，意识会趋于模糊，杂念丛生，甚至走神了，忘了切换到哪儿了。这是好事，要的就是这种感觉！全程要保持最舒服的状态，我们不要求身体纹丝不动，那样会造成僵硬的，反倒会影响效果。怎么舒服怎么来 -- 咽口水、挠痒，都没问题。

5、换成最舒服的平时入睡用的姿势，用最快的速度睡去。太玄的功效是在睡着后发挥的，所以不要追求在上面的切换过程中发生奇迹，那样只会让你失眠。你越快入睡，效果越好。

【接下来会发生什么】

通过在三种感官中的不断切换，我们的身体和意识被调整到一个很特殊的状态。在这个状态下，会发生很多奇妙的事情：

1、太玄境：在你睡着以后的某个时刻，你会突然一下醒过来，可能伴随着脑后一沉的感觉。这时你会进入一种很奇特玄妙的，可以直接起身出体的状态，我们称之为“太玄境”。在这个状态里，你会知道自己躺在床上，意识非常的清醒，毫无困意。身体很轻，有一种很空灵的感觉。

2、梦中出体：睡着以后，忽然在梦中感受到强烈的出体信号，如震动、耳鸣、身体旋转等等。将这些信号通过意念放大到一定程度，即可成功出体。

3、梦中知梦：接下来的梦中，你知梦的机率会大幅提高。可能莫名其妙就知梦了，或者会成功发现一些异常而疑梦。

4、直接入梦、出体：在切换的过程中，可能会出现出体信号如震动、耳鸣等等。这时应停止切换，直接出体。同时也有可能会出现其他的一些异常感受，诸如：蜂鸣声变大、变得尖锐；眼前出现图像；身体下沉、漂浮或者旋转；手不由自主飘起来。。。等等等等。出现这些现象时，也应该立即停止切换，专注于这些感受，用意念去放大它的效果。当放大到一定程度时，即可验梦起身了。

5、假醒：练完太玄以后，可能会频繁假醒。这些假醒和太玄境不同，你的意识会比较混沌，不易识别。所以一定要养成在醒来后验梦的习惯。

6、最后一招：如果练完太玄后忽然又醒来了，而且验梦后是真醒，不要沮丧，还有机会！这个时候应该在心里产生强烈的要出体的意愿，然后充分放松头部，让它陷入枕头里。出体信号很快会随之出现，放大后就可以在完全清醒状态下出体了。如果掌握好这个技术，利用太玄就可以达到接近百分之百的成功率。

【太玄的由来】

太玄功的基本功法取自于我自己这些年来所使用的清醒入梦技术，详见我写的《WILD Dreams》一文。后来在和 @353877848 的历时几个月的互动切磋中，我们共同总结出了这套方法。以后又通过宇宙之铁吧的朋友们的共同努力，对其做出了进一步的完善。至于这个名字，其实来源于金庸小说《侠客行》里面的典故。和“谁能书阁下，白首太玄经”中的古时杨雄的《太玄经》并无关系。其实，太玄功在各种感官之间的切换，和近代著名的心理学家、催眠大师Milton H. Erickson的夫人Betty Erickson发明的一种自我催眠术有着惊人相似的地方。

From百度“宇宙之铁“吧

Wgaz

中文版的

《太玄功》，英文名为“Senses Initiated Lucid Dream(SILD)”，意译为“通过感官引发的清醒梦 ...
青青狼 发表于 11-3-2012 10:22 PM

   多谢分享，方法之一，我没练过，所以漏掉了，现在放去fb那里。

bboyed

已经自行训练当中了

Wgaz

已经自行训练当中了
bboyed 发表于 20-3-2012 04:39 PM

   有问题的话尽管问

kylex

哇...好长呀...
有谁试了吗...?

vitacone

出体过后其实是梦境，还是现实来？
比如你出门，现实中有一只狗在门外经过，也会看到？