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如果马国买台风,一天内马上送货!

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发表于 27-11-2015 08:10 AM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 cyberjaye 于 27-11-2015 08:11 AM 编辑

跟据真正有料而不谎的记者马哈林报道,英国可以一天时间内提供18架英军现役的二手台风T1为期18个月。
18个月后才送上新造的台风T3~~
很有诚意!


http://www.malaysiandefence.com/mrca-typhoons-and-hawks/

MRCA: SDSR, Typhoons and HawksMarhalim Abas November 25, 2015 Malaysia - RMAF
SHAH ALAM: THE publication of the UK’s Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) on Nov 23, has confirmed the availability of Eurofighter Typhoon for Malaysia – on day One – if and when the government choose the fighter aircraft for the MRCA programme.
Industry sources told Malaysian Defence the plan which called among others, the extension of the Typhoon out-of-service date (OSD) from 2030 to 2040 and 24 aircraft being retained to form two new front-line squadrons. The UK had earlier planned to retire the 24 aircraft – the so-called Tranche 1 Typhoon – between 2015 and 2019.
A CGI of a Typhoon carrying a load of Spear 3 bombs complete with air-to-air missiles and extra fuel tanks
If the UK had retired the Tranche 1 Typhoons, we would probably end up paying the In-Service Support (ISS) costs if we were to opt to lease them until we get the new build aircraft under the lease and buy offer. It is likely the UK will get more Tranche 3 Typhoons, if the Malaysian deal goes through.
Under the deal, Malaysia can expect to lease around 18 fully-serviceable Typhoons and more importantly the full ordnance and support package as an interim measure until the new build aircraft could be delivered – usually within 24 months time after the contract signing.
RAF Typhoon at Butterworth airbase in 2011.
Furthermore, with the UK and Saudi Arabia paying for the latest upgrades of the Typhoons, RMAF can expect to get one of the best fighter aircraft for the next 20 years.
RMAF Hawk 208 M40-34 taking off during Eks Paradise 2/2015 at Labuan airbase.
And the offer does not end there apparently. If we choose the Typhoon, RMAF could also choose either upgrading its Hawk fleet or opt for the Hawk AJT after the new MRCA squadron is declared fully operational.
The cost free upgrading will allow RMAF’s Hawk fleet to operate for at least another 10 years. Among others with the upgrade, the Hawks will be able to fire a variety of guided missiles from air-to-surface and air-to-air missiles.
Hawk AJT training capabilities.
Opting for the Hawk AJT will be more costly however, though it is expected the UK government will offer large discounts for it. As it is the AJT is also capable of conducting close support, reconnaissance, surveillance and air defence – just like the current 108/208 fleet and more.
RMAF Hawk 208s tail number 36 and 34 in the dispersal shed at Labuan airbase.
Industry sources told Malaysian Defence that although the Hawk upgrades have been approved for RMK11, funding for the programme remains uncertain with the current situation.
If the package route sounds familiar what about the other MRCA contenders then? Well I have written about the Saab package previouslywhile the Rafale will be in the next post.
Gripen and 340 combo?
As for Boeing, I am not sure yet. Perhaps they are also packaging the Super Hornets with the Poseidon Lite (the Boeing MSA) which may not be surprising at all.
All of this sounds wonderful, but when will the government funds the MRCA programme then? Have they even agreed for the special funding needed for the programme to become official? Your guess is as good as mine.
— Malaysian Defence




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发表于 27-11-2015 11:26 AM | 显示全部楼层



英国要买138架F-35,台风.....落后了。  向英国买二手台风很好啊,可以帮忙英国大清货。

Britain To Purchase 138 F-35’S   
Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne reportedly plans to announce that Britain is purchasing 138 F-35 aircraft.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-to-purchase-138-f-35s/
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发表于 27-11-2015 08:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
跟据真正有料而不谎的记者马哈林报道,英国可以一天时间内提供18架英军现役的二手台风T1为期18个月。
18个月后才送上新造的台风T3~~
很有诚意


一场普通的空军演习,英国出动战斗机来大马参与,只调派几架战斗机,准备和安排的时间肯定不只一天。


过境什么国家得事前协调,相关国家准许才能成行。


没知识而且又很天真的,才会相信“英国可以一天时间内提供18架英军现役的二手台风T1”。



真的是天大笑话!

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发表于 28-11-2015 10:15 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 edmund47 于 28-11-2015 10:19 AM 编辑

台风进来后我们的Hawk有希望升级至Hawk AJT。Hawk AJT除了能胜任Hawk 208的训练、轰炸任务,在低空也算是很不错的空对空战机。

美国空军在cope Taufan 2014 对Hawk 208的评价不低。

英国了解马来西亚空军把米格-29退了以后将会有战机真空的问题。就算现在跟其他制造商签合同购买,估计也要等上几年才会有新战机。除了saab,他们愿意让马来西亚lease and buy。
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 楼主| 发表于 28-11-2015 11:48 AM | 显示全部楼层
edmund47 发表于 28-11-2015 10:15 AM
台风进来后我们的Hawk有希望升级至Hawk AJT。Hawk AJT除了能胜任Hawk 208的训练、轰炸任务,在低空也算是很 ...



是的,上次有料的记者有提到买台风免费upgrade hawk
没料的完全不知道

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 楼主| 发表于 1-10-2016 10:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 cyberjaye 于 1-10-2016 10:16 PM 编辑
edmund47 发表于 28-11-2015 10:15 AM
台风进来后我们的Hawk有希望升级至Hawk AJT。Hawk AJT除了能胜任Hawk 208的训练、轰炸任务,在低空也算是很不错的空对空战机。

美国空军在cope Taufan 2014 对Hawk 208的评价不低。

英国了解马来西亚空军把米 ...



一款极其霸道的反坦克导弹,射程60千米,坦克看不清载机就被打掉


现在的主战坦克,有着许许多多的天敌,低空飞行的武装直升机,具备反坦克能力的步兵,各种战车,都能够将坦克置之死地。本图集讲述的一种武器,坦克甚至有可能看不清发射导弹的飞机,就有被打掉。

该型武器便是硫磺石反坦克导弹,用固定翼飞机发射时,其射程高达60千米,采用直升机发射时,射程为40千米。

北京到保定的距离为146千米左右,如果采用固定翼飞机发射硫磺石导弹,也就是说火车跑一小半(20几分钟),才相当于该型导弹的射程。坦克要在这么远的距离用肉眼看载机,即便是高空飞行,也难度很大。

硫磺石导弹的速度是450米/秒,换算过来是1620千米/小时,而该导弹从60千米的距离飞临目标,两分多钟就足够了。如此远的距离,要打中目标非常困难,因此采用毫米波主动雷达制导,且具备发射后不管的能力。

与此同时,硫磺石导弹的重量也不大,只有48.5千克,一架战斗机可以携带多枚该型导弹。如果一枚战斗机主要携带硫磺石导弹,那么很有可能仅一个架次,就能报销对方1个坦克连的兵力。

硫磺石导弹既能够从固定翼战机上发射,也可以从直升机上发射。由于具有超远的射程,一般的轻型防空导弹根本无法威胁到发射硫磺石导弹的武装直升机。

该型导弹采用三联装的导弹发射架,其最低发射高度为45米,最大发射高度为1.37万米,适应于战机进行低空突防作战。

硫磺石导弹采用毫米波雷达导引头进行末端制导,在进入自主飞行阶段之后,会开启目标捕获区的引导方式,这样就可以避免重复攻击同一辆坦克。

最远射程达到60千米的反坦克导弹,价格一定便宜不了。一枚硫磺石导弹的价格是17.5万英镑,换算过来是151万人民币。图中的这3发导弹,够在帝都买套小房子了。

图为台风战斗机,其机翼下方挂载有6枚硫磺石导弹。一架台风战斗机的价格是1.01亿美元。让台风干反坦克的活儿,有点大材小用。不过,幸好硫磺石导弹的射程很远。台风被干掉一架,那才划不来哦。

硫磺石导弹是在1996年设计的,但真正服役则是到了2005年,现在主要装备英国空军和土豪沙特空军。截至目前,硫磺石导弹已经多次参加实战。

地勤人员正在为战机加挂硫磺石反坦克导弹。在作战行动之中,硫磺石导弹是唯一具备发射后不管、可打击移动目标且附带伤害较小的导弹,因此英国和沙特都非常喜欢使用这种导弹。



战斗机的机腹上加挂的硫磺石导弹,同普通的反坦克导弹相比,这种导弹的射程已经是非常远了。

不过,从目前来看,除了英国空军自用,只有沙特才购买了硫磺石导弹。其实反坦克这个活儿,武装直升机、地面车辆和步兵都能干,研制射程这么远的反坦克导弹,有一些浪费了。


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发表于 5-10-2016 04:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
我们哪还有钱买台风战机,叫台湾送(台风)还差不多吧!
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发表于 1-11-2016 11:44 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
不过以现在的情况来看,陆军和海军会先得到拨款来增添新军备,空军就等等吧。再5年,等到空军已经变成纸上空军的时候……
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 楼主| 发表于 2-11-2016 12:54 AM | 显示全部楼层
edmund47 发表于 1-11-2016 11:44 PM
不过以现在的情况来看,陆军和海军会先得到拨款来增添新军备,空军就等等吧。再5年,等到空军已经变成纸上空军的时候……

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再5年,等到空军已经变成纸上空军的时候买FC-31


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发表于 2-11-2016 10:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
edmund47 发表于 1-11-2016 11:44 PM
不过以现在的情况来看,陆军和海军会先得到拨款来增添新军备,空军就等等吧。再5年,等到空军已经变成纸上空军的时候……

等政府有钱先。。。。
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发表于 3-11-2016 03:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
@啊不然呢   如果马国买台风,一天内马上送货!
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发表于 3-11-2016 04:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
鞭神鞭夠力 发表于 3-11-2016 07:48 AM
@啊不然呢   如果马国买台风,一天内马上送货!

啊爸吐?
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发表于 7-11-2016 12:19 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
mikelee82 发表于 2-11-2016 10:27 PM
等政府有钱先。。。。

从计划宣布到现在我小学中学都毕业了   
在等五年让我大学读完再说吧 XD

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“By the year 2020 we have to make a decision on the [purchase of the] MRCAs. It’s an open secret that we are looking at either the [Dassault] Rafale, or the [BAE Systems’] Typhoon from the UK, but we don’t have to make the decision now. What we need to do is look at the affordability, and that depends on [the state of] our economy,” he said
Hishammuddin also explained in the same press conference why Typhoon and Rafale were the final candidates.
“There are other reasons why we did not look at the [latest] Sukhois, [Boeing F/A-18] Hornets and the Gripen, which is a Swedish plane, but the most important [factor] is that whatever we do, we must be able to explain to the public,” Hishammuddin said.

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发表于 11-3-2017 09:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
edmund47 发表于 28-11-2015 10:15 AM
台风进来后我们的Hawk有希望升级至Hawk AJT。Hawk AJT除了能胜任Hawk 208的训练、轰炸任务,在低空也算是很不错的空对空战机。

美国空军在cope Taufan 2014 对Hawk 208的评价不低。

英国了解马来西亚空军把米 ...


有可能半买半送沙特的2手战机

http://www.malaysiandefence.com/eagles-typhoons-or-tornados/

                                                        Eagles, Typhoons or Tornados?                                                                                                                                Marhalim Abas                                                                        March 2, 2017                                                                                                Malaysia - RMAF                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        SHAH ALAM: Eagles, Typhoons or Tornados? Or none of the above? Defence Minister DS Hishammuddin Hussein was quoted as saying that Malaysia is looking into the possibility buying “excess” Saudi aeroplanes and helicopters.
He did not identify the actual type or numbers apart from saying that he will need to talk further with his Saudi counterpart for the final details. He told this to reporters after sending off King Salman Abdulaziz AlSaud of Saudi Arabia at the Bunga Raya Complex Wednesday. The Saudi King was in Malaysia for a four-day state visit.
Two RSAF Eurofighter Typhoon flies in formation. BAE SystemsHishammuddin said the possible deal for excess Saudi aircraft – fighters for RMAF and helicopters for the Army Air Wing – was part of the wide-ranging military collaboration agreed upon during the state visit. The ministry will also look into getting other assets which are suitable for the Malaysian armed forces.
Malaysia and Saudi armed forces will conduct bilateral training and exercises as part of the collaboration.
RSAF Tornado ADV. PanaviaAccording to him, Malaysia will offer submarine training to Saudi Navy personnel at the RMN’s base at Teluk Sepanggar, Sabah as part of the collaboration. Saudi Navy is expected to induct submarines into its fleet in the future, Hishammuddin said. The collaboration however will not involved Malaysian soldiers in the current Yemeni conflict.
RSAF Boeing F-15SA. Internet.However, a small number of  Malaysian soldiers will be attached to the Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition headquarters in Riyadh.
At the moment, I have no idea what aircraft had been offered to Malaysia by the Saudis. As it is RMAF and Royal Saudi Air Force operates a number of similar aircraft, from Hercules to Hawks. We also operate Blackhawks and Cougar helicopters as does the RSAF.
I believed we do not need extra Hercules while the Saudi’s Hawks are older than ours. They are getting new Hawks, of course, but again if they retire the old ones, it not will be very worthwhile to take over them. (the old Hawks).
RSAF BAE Systems Mk 65 Hawks. BAE SystemsWhat they have in excess are F-15s, Cs of course, as they are getting new Strike Eagles as well as upgrading their old ones to the same standard. They also have around 70 Eurofighter Typhoons with the possibility of ordering 24 or 48 brand new ones.
RSAF Boeing F-15SAWill they offer the Cs or Typhoon or even the 80 Panavia Tornados which have been in service since the 1990s? Your guess is as good as mine! And what about our budget crunch which forced the cancellation of the purchase of the Brunei Blackhawks and delayed the order for the M109 SPH?
A Royal Saudi Air Force C-130 Hercules aircraft participates in the airdrop competition over McChord Air Force Base, Wash., July 23, 2007. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Richard Rose/Released)I am not sure how this will play out but you are all aware Saudi Arabia is a much richer country than us so it can subsidise the cost of upgrading or refurbish the aircraft we want especially with the price of oil going north.
24 Boeing AH-6Is are being delivered to Saudi Arabia National Guard.For the record, RMAF does not want any other aircraft – even stop gap measures – for its MRCA requirement. It wants the aircraft it had selected though it did not mention the name, according to written answers to questions sent to the air force ahead of LIMA 17.
For the record, Hishammuddin has said that the MRCA has been down selected to either the Typhoon or Rafale. However, the economic conditions meant that an order will only be made in 2020.
— Malaysian Defence

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