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遇到拖工的装修佬...

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发表于 18-1-2017 04:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
kokjye 发表于 18-1-2017 11:39 AM
他做到不好我就敢敢cut掉他叫别人做,他就说baject不够就不帮我收尾!!!

那你米够的话,那些烂摊子也花钱请新的承包商一起搞定吧。
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发表于 18-1-2017 04:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
latte3948 发表于 18-1-2017 04:41 PM
那你米够的话,那些烂摊子也花钱请新的承包商一起搞定吧。

已经花钱请新的承包商搞定了,而且还不用伤脑筋,新的承包商都说烂摊子很难收拾 遇到这样的装修商都不知道亏了多少
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发表于 18-1-2017 04:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
做莫跟我家对面的一样的?难道是你吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 18-1-2017 05:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
sam2ec 发表于 18-1-2017 04:49 PM
做莫跟我家对面的一样的?难道是你吗?

你住哪里???
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 楼主| 发表于 18-1-2017 05:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
Thx2012 发表于 18-1-2017 11:50 AM
没用的,我之前的case 和你的一样,只是我比你聪明一些,我是分4次payment 的。

第一次是deposit 10%, 第二次30%,第三次 30%, 最后一次30%.

然后我的Case 是deposit 他就骗我了,我也是报警,公布那个人的 ...

报警了不会让他留底吗?

我想来想去...他不见人影不接电话不看信息...我真的奈他不何...除了报警. 这三万三千我已打定输数拿不回了....只是我也不会让他好过...

报警加公布他的资料是我最后的手段....让他不再危害人间....

今天我一直打他电话...完全不听关机...结果早上我信息他说他是老千骗钱我不会放过他....他竟然回复我老公电话说我骂他老千...他就老千给我看...

到底是怎么样的人渣....自己有问题还要大声过受害者...... 我有联络另一个给他装修的屋主....他说也是被他拖着工程....


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发表于 18-1-2017 05:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
公司有注册吗?
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发表于 18-1-2017 05:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
tikiyizi 发表于 18-1-2017 05:21 PM
报警了不会让他留底吗?

我想来想去...他不见人影不接电话不看信息...我真的奈他不何...除了报警. 这三万三千我已打定输数拿不回了....只是我也不会让他好过...

报警加公布他的资料是我最后的手段....让他 ...

你做的,我以前也做过了,也是那他们装修佬没办法的,报警留底,并不代表什么。。。

你还是找过有店面的装修老来做你的家,不要找那种没有店面的。。。我已经不信没有店面的公司了。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 18-1-2017 06:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
Liau 发表于 18-1-2017 05:26 PM
公司有注册吗?

有注册号码...
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 楼主| 发表于 18-1-2017 06:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
Thx2012 发表于 18-1-2017 05:34 PM
你做的,我以前也做过了,也是那他们装修佬没办法的,报警留底,并不代表什么。。。

你还是找过有店面的装修老来做你的家,不要找那种没有店面的。。。我已经不信没有店面的公司了。。。

惨痛的教训....真的是人渣....我相信他会有报应的...
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发表于 18-1-2017 10:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
tikiyizi 发表于 18-1-2017 06:06 PM
惨痛的教训....真的是人渣....我相信他会有报应的...

你也要怪你自己不够聪明,一下子给完他全部钱。

我先跟你讲,最没良心的行业就是装修佬和修车佬。简直是骗钱罢了的。

所以我修车,如果超过1千,我就直接回去Perodua 修,还有保家更加好。。。
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发表于 19-1-2017 07:40 AM | 显示全部楼层

我住新山。该不会那么巧吧!
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发表于 19-1-2017 07:55 AM | 显示全部楼层
完了~可能是同一班
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发表于 19-1-2017 09:23 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 19-1-2017 09:38 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 vongolia 于 19-1-2017 09:51 AM 编辑

根据律师公会网站里的一篇文章意见,除非一个人不会装修却骗你会装修,拿了你的钱然后消失才算是欺诈,这个报警才有用。
如果装修佬只是完成了一半工作,delay 什么的,这个报警是没用的,通常这种case要走民事索偿,不过索偿的金钱未必能补偿你的全部损失包括官司费用和时间。
这个要看你自己个人考虑和决定。
如果索偿的赔偿少过10千,那么可以使用消费者仲裁庭手段。
最后永远不要给完钱给装修佬。做到哪里就给到哪里,如果他们要买材料跟你要钱,你直接帮他们给钱给材料供应商,之后再从装修费扣除。如果他们说要给工钱,那么你就要小心了,这代表这装修佬是没钱的,所以随时骗你的钱也不一定。
以下是原文,你可以自己读。 不过你3万多的金钱,试试看民事索偿吧。找个律师问下意见。



http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/m ... ant_contractor.html
What recourse does a house owner have when a renovation job goes awry?

A READER wrote in to ask: “What action can we take if the contractor we hire to renovate the house does not complete the job but has been paid in full and other contractors had to be called to complete the job, incurring additional expenses? The renovation work was not done properly and after two months, cracks started to appear on the ceiling, the plumbing was out and the paintwork was peeling. Although a police report was made, no action was taken against the contractor. The reason given by the police officer was that since he is an individual, no action could be taken against him. Is this correct? Whom do we refer to in such instances?”

To start with, I must say that unless it is appropriate, making a police report hardly achieves any purpose. This is because a police report serves as a first information report, which triggers police investigations if, and when, an offence or crime occurs.

The contractor must have committed an offence such as cheating, for the police to take action. Thus, if a person who does not know how to do the repairs or renovation work claims to be able to do so, and collects payment and then disappears, it could be a case of cheating.

However, where a contractor has not completed the job, it could, at most, be an offence only if at the commencement of the arrangement entered into, the contractor had a pre-conceived intention to abandon the job or abscond with the money. However, this would be difficult to prove, even if prosecution was instituted.

The situation posed by our reader would fall into the category of a civil dispute in which the police are not involved. It is a matter for the aggrieved party to pursue on the basis of a civil remedy by going to a tribunal that exists for the purpose, or through the courts by instituting a civil claim.

However, whilst the option to pursue a civil claim exists, it may not always be a cost-effective exercise in terms of money and time.

The amount involved will be a valid consideration in deciding whether to pursue the matter in this manner. Apart from this, a litigant would want to weigh a successful outcome against the practical reality of being able to recover the money, as against only getting a paper judgment.

It is also relevant to be aware of such a house owner’s real grievance.

In ordinary terms, any dissatisfaction may be classified as a failure to complete the work. However, in the context of construction activity, there is a difference between incomplete work and work practically completed but where there are defects which need to be rectified.

If the amount to be claimed against the contractor is less than RM10,000, it may be possible for the aggrieved person to file a claim with the Tribunal for Consumer Claims constituted under the Consumer Protection Act 1999. The objective here would be to recover monetary compensation.

This is on the basis that such a claim would be in respect of supply of services. Section 53 of the Consumer Protection Act 1999 provides that “where services are supplied to a consumer, there shall be implied a guarantee that the services will be carried out with reasonable care and skill.”

The Act also provides redress to a consumer against the supply of goods which fail to comply with the implied guarantees, with regard to quality and fitness for a particular purpose. However, if the loss or damage caused is more than RM10,000 then the remedy would have to be sought in the courts. But if the amount is just slightly more than RM10,000, the aggrieved party may want to limit his claim to RM10,000 so that redress can be obtained through the Tribunal for Consumer Protection.

Otherwise, the aggrieved party will need to resort to the courts to obtain relief. Going to the courts has its challenges for the ordinary individual. As an alternative, it would be more practical to rely on preventive measures and avoid getting into such a situation.

It is unwise to give the contractor all the money due, at an early stage or even at the outset. This will create a disadvantage for the houseowner as there is no more hold on the contractor to carry out the task satisfactorily.

Whilst it is common for many contractors to ask for advance payment, the house owner should only pay an amount which is appropriate in the circumstances. Ask the contractor to list out the stages in which work is to be done, and the payment to be made for each stage when it is completed or partly completed.

In many cases, the contractor may want an advance to purchase material. It would be a good idea to get the contractor to agree to an arrangement whereby the houseowner will pay directly to the building material supplier in return for the material supplied. This amount could then be set off against the amount payable to the contractor.

However, it is also possible that the contractor needs an advance to pay his workers daily. If this is the case, it would be a signal to the houseowner that the contractor may not be financially sound.

If more and more payment is being made and less and less work is being done, this could be an indicator of impending problems.

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 楼主| 发表于 19-1-2017 11:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
vongolia 发表于 19-1-2017 09:38 AM
根据律师公会网站里的一篇文章意见,除非一个人不会装修却骗你会装修,拿了你的钱然后消失才算是欺诈,这个报警才有用。
如果装修佬只是完成了一半工作,delay 什么的,这个报警是没用的,通常这种case要走民事索偿 ...

谢谢你的资料提供.

若如此...或者考虑报警 + 民事索赔....

装修新家本是开心的事...却搞得好累好累...
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发表于 19-1-2017 02:11 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
我之前的装修佬也是那样,一堆借口。本来说好一个月交货拖到三个月才搞定。还要每天打电话去催,一时说孩子病,老婆跑掉,工人朋友去世。。。什么烂借口都出完来了。幸好我没有一次过付一大笔钱,连要用的电器,门都是我自己去买。装修是比买房子更累人的事,楼主要挺着!
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发表于 19-1-2017 07:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Yummyzai 于 19-1-2017 07:30 PM 编辑

我的情况和一你一模一样, 装修一年还没完成。搞到我要找其他装修佬才完工,会不会是同一个装修佬?
我的装修的公司是ID PRO INTERIOR ( PG 0231394 )。叫desmond的人
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 楼主| 发表于 20-1-2017 09:57 AM | 显示全部楼层
STCC Contruction & Trading
(IP0417311-H)

Kenny Ho (左手边有一只牛的刺青,戴眼镜)

之前说是家住在rawang....

请大家警惕这个人.....

现在完全是不听电话....不回信息.....而且现在我还联络到更多的受害者....
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 楼主| 发表于 3-2-2017 12:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
vongolia 发表于 19-1-2017 09:23 AM
试试看消费者仲裁庭。
https://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2578832


这个也可以试试看
http://www.nccc.org.my/v2/index.php/home

消费者仲裁庭只对于有店面有地址的商家才可以进行索赔.

新年之前过去TTPM一趟,结果遇到两个工作人员爱理不理的态度,告诉我他们只受理有齐全资料的案件,若没有地址或联络方式,自己就得去想方法...

(问题是报警时已告诉警察找不到那个老千,警察却还是告诉我要去TTPM备个案,结果那边又说这样的话
报案至今为止已两个星期,警方至今依然没有招讯我们拿那个老千的资料,真的为国家的警察效率感到可悲.

况且报案者不止我一人,是总共已有六名受害者也报案了(还有另外四名受害者也还没报案).... 大家总共被骗数目过百千

难道真的只能让这样的老千逍遥法外,继续骗人....

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发表于 3-2-2017 01:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
tikiyizi 发表于 3-2-2017 12:56 PM
消费者仲裁庭只对于有店面有地址的商家才可以进行索赔.

新年之前过去TTPM一趟,结果遇到两个工作人员爱理不理的态度,告诉我他们只受理有齐全资料的案件,若没有地址或联络方式,自己就得去想方法...

(问题是 ...

报警没有用的啦,去找张天赐。
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