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发表于 19-10-2017 11:48 AM
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追讨欠薪,一般上是 Labour Court 或者 Civil Court,
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/c ... _questions.html#a02
Q. What is the difference between the Industrial Court and the Labour Court?
A. While the Industrial Court deals with individual disputes arising from the employer-employee relationship (such as dismissals) and trade disputes between trade unions and employers (such as transfers, collective agreements) and breaches of rights and obligations imposed under the Industrial Relations Act 1967, the Labour Court deals mainly with recovery of wages and other monies and employment benefits provided to employees under the Employment Act 1955 such as overtime pay, maternity allowance, salary in lieu of notice of termination and termination benefits. The “Labour Court” is not a statutory tribunal like the Industrial Court but refers to the hearing conducted by a Labour Officer of the Labour Department into complaints by employees. Employees whose monthly wages are RM1, 500 and below and other categories of employees who are entitled to the benefits in the Employment Act 1955 can file their claims in the Labour Court. Employees who fall outside the scope of the Employment Act 1955 but whose monthly salary does not exceed RM5,000 may also seek the assistance of the Labour Court for recovery of salary or other monies due and payable by their employers under their individual contracts of service.
Industrial Court 是涉及非法解雇(Unfair Dismissal)的问题。如果公司要倒闭了而被解雇或欠薪,在 Industrial Court的案件中,有一宗是特别醒目的:莲花汽车解雇6个外国专业人士,工业法庭的判决是
“In dismissing the claim by the six claimants, the Industrial Court said Lotus Engineering Malaysia Sdn Bhd had proved that the termination of their employment was due to “genuine reasons of financial losses” which had also caused the company to shut down in 2012.”
Read more at Proton Outfit Wins Wrongful Dismissal
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发表于 19-10-2017 12:22 PM
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发表于 19-10-2017 06:33 PM
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发表于 19-10-2017 06:34 PM
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发表于 19-10-2017 07:30 PM
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楼住,你人在哪里? 找你的MP应该可以帮忙。或找张天赐。不过可能要上电视。包密一点就看不到。
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发表于 19-10-2017 11:11 PM
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试过和前雇主谈判了吗?分分中他们申请破产,到时拿回更难。 |
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发表于 20-10-2017 01:24 AM
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如果公司正准备清盘,你有律师都没有用 |
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发表于 20-10-2017 08:27 AM
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Please visit here for reference: http://www.mylabourlaw.net/ |
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发表于 20-10-2017 11:49 AM
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发表于 20-10-2017 05:36 PM
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鼓励你到劳工部投诉 |
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发表于 23-10-2017 01:42 PM
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发表于 15-11-2017 07:01 PM
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大家好,几个星期过去了,我这单case,仍然没有进展,我们一群人(10多位被裁员的)薪水还是被拖欠着,公司还是没有钱还给我们。
我们告到IR Department, Shah Alam 终于才知道是没有用的。
IR Department的管理人跟我们说 “老实地告诉你们,这个部门不能够帮你们拿回钱的,就算能也要1-2年的时间,我建议你们去找个律师直接控告你们的老板...”
**听说其他被拖欠钱的supplier/sub-con也是有请律师控告我们的老板,可是到今天也无法拿到钱。
OK, 就是这样了,我只会这些而已。
大家认为我应该如何做呢? @Ongss
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发表于 15-11-2017 11:01 PM
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嗯,我都猜到了,IR帮不上忙的。
如果是供应商请律师起诉也拿不到钱,我想,你们被裁员的机会是冻过水了,非常抱歉。你现在能整你前老板的法子就是去EPF投诉前雇主没缴交EPF,让EPF调查后决定如何对付前老板,可能前老板会被列入黑名单。
供应商起诉是没法子的法子,对一间公司来说,如果人家欠钱不还而没有动作,所有顾客都会有样学样了,所以,供应商非得打官司。你的前雇主是Sdn Bhd 还是 Sole Proprietor 或 Partnership?
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发表于 15-11-2017 11:13 PM
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原来可以投诉EPF的。
我前老板公司是XXXXX Sdn Bhd
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发表于 15-11-2017 11:32 PM
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Sdn Bhd 的话,说真的,当这次经验是一次磨练,以后申请工作,多注意公司经营的方式。Sdn Bhd是私人有限公司,就是说公司的责任只限制于公司的缴足资本,生意失败破产,这是公司负责,不是股东或董事负责,所以老板可以置身于外。
对于比较谨慎的supplier,在放账时,一般会研究一下Sdn Bhd的财务状况,如果发现公司的财务状况不理想,一般上,这些supplier会要求director guarantee,所以公司如果倒闭,supplier会起诉公司和董事。
如果你和你的同事真的要请律师,你们集资一起找,费用大家平均分配,这样会便宜一点,可是,和律师谈费用时,要记得坚持只付头期,赢官司拿到钱后分账,如果律师愿意这样办,这是说赢了官司会有钱拿。如果不愿做,就是说赢后拿到钱的机会低,所以他们不愿白干活。当然,有些律师是有正义感,或许会收取低收费来帮你们拿公道,只是这种好人是可遇不可求。
给你的劝告是:往前看,去找一份更好的工作。
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发表于 16-11-2017 01:31 PM
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看来,还真的拿他没办法。
难怪很多supplier/sub-con都中。
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发表于 16-11-2017 02:13 PM
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某人建议我去找MCA的张天赐,你们认为有用吗?
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