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 楼主| 发表于 7-9-2015 02:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
lcheesin 发表于 6-9-2015 10:02 PM
Hi 大大,请问下

净利薪水=RM2840+ (RM1800X0.8)=3148,这个很像是算错了。

抱歉, 按错。 人有过失。。
净利薪水

=RM2840+ (RM1800X0.8)=4280

贷款现金
=4280 X 0.7 = RM2996

债务
0

总贷款现金 2996


房屋贷款 RM600,000 以下
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是的,如果有收租报税,直接拿报税单来借贷款,那就行了
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发表于 7-9-2015 09:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
Madgenius 发表于 7-9-2015 02:11 AM
抱歉, 按错。 人有过失。。
净利薪水

lz 你好想问薪水3k,还没扣epf,信用卡每个月清,没车贷,请问可借最高是几多呢。。。。谢
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 楼主| 发表于 8-9-2015 12:50 AM | 显示全部楼层
杰tang 发表于 7-9-2015 09:29 PM
lz 你好想问薪水3k,还没扣epf,信用卡每个月清,没车贷,请问可借最高是几多呢。。。。谢

这个是我私人的计算表。可以购买最高RM317,500 的房屋给 HLB,MAYBANK,OCBC
RHB 可以到,RM400,000 的房屋价




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 楼主| 发表于 8-9-2015 03:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 8-9-2015 08:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
Madgenius 发表于 8-9-2015 12:50 AM
这个是我私人的计算表。可以购买最高RM317,500 的房屋给 HLB,MAYBANK,OCBC
RHB 可以到,RM400,000 的房 ...

请问为何不同bank不同价呢?你是在哪个area的呢???现看中间con但list 里说明工钱最少要4k,房价370k,请问有将的事吗?头期可给50k....
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 楼主| 发表于 9-9-2015 03:44 AM | 显示全部楼层
杰tang 发表于 8-9-2015 08:39 PM
请问为何不同bank不同价呢?你是在哪个area的呢???现看中间con但list 里说明工钱最少要4k,房价370k,请 ...

请问为何不同bank不同价呢?你是在哪个area的呢???现看中间con但list 里说明工钱最少要4k,房价370k,请问有将的事吗?头期可给50k....


每个银行有他们自己的DEBT SERVICE RATIO 算法,所以会有不同价。

KL 和 SELANGOR

要购买RM370,000 的房屋,每月需还RM1500 左右, 所以RM4000 工钱的需求是逻辑,因为要借到贷款,通常需要有债务还债的记入,比如车,信用卡。。。等等除除减减,RM4000 是个大约的数目。
发展商可以有他们的条件,但最好是闻讯他们。


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 楼主| 发表于 10-9-2015 02:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 12-9-2015 09:00 AM | 显示全部楼层
Madgenius 发表于 9-9-2015 03:44 AM
每个银行有他们自己的DEBT SERVICE RATIO 算法,所以会有不同价。

KL 和 SELANGOR

lz谢谢你。。。
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发表于 12-9-2015 05:02 PM | 显示全部楼层

请问薪水rm2700,供车rm400,没有信用卡,可以借到多少的房屋贷款?
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发表于 12-9-2015 08:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
lz, 请问房屋融资问题可解答吗? 谢谢~
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发表于 12-9-2015 08:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
Hi.. 方便解释BR & BLR 的分别吗?? 谢谢...
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 楼主| 发表于 13-9-2015 02:33 AM | 显示全部楼层
mlfoong 发表于 12-9-2015 05:02 PM
请问薪水rm2700,供车rm400,没有信用卡,可以借到多少的房屋贷款?
请问薪水rm2700,供车rm400,没有信用卡,可以借到多少的房屋贷款?
RM230,000 以下的房屋
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 楼主| 发表于 13-9-2015 02:33 AM | 显示全部楼层
SEBASTIAN28 发表于 12-9-2015 08:04 PM
lz, 请问房屋融资问题可解答吗? 谢谢~
lz, 请问房屋融资问题可解答吗? 谢谢
请发问。
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 楼主| 发表于 13-9-2015 02:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
laysee 发表于 12-9-2015 08:48 PM
Hi.. 方便解释BR & BLR 的分别吗?? 谢谢...


我很久前写了一篇很长的解释。
华语版和英语版。 慢慢详情。

明年 2/JAN/2015 银行会改换新的贷款系统 “BASE RATE”

Base Rate 是= Base(Benchmark + SRR) + Cost plus SPREAD (Liquidity risk + operating cost + credit risk + Profit margin)
                                 = Base + 0.4%/0.7%
                                 = 4% + 0.4%  =4.4%

BLR                           = BLR -2.XX%
                                 =6.84 - 2.6% =4.4%

看来是一样的结尾数目, 但是分别是在 Base Rate 是 ”+“ 所以, Base Rate 是有底线, 银行不能少越这个数目。
但是BLR是 “-” , 银行可以减 2.xx% 利息,想要多低就多低冲破底线。

Base Rate
-这个系统的BASE (BENCHMARK+SRR) 据说是跟着 KLIBOR RATE的漂浮转变 (KLIBOR 是银行之间的短期存蓄利息,给别的银行流动现金)
-这个的好处是借货资金的成本会更显然,更透彻
-每季,银行会回顾它们所给的利息,所以贷款者会有3个月的定利息,因为BLR 是随时会更换随着OPR的改变。

为何要转变
1)因为银行要有个底线给借货资金成本利息
2)可以更明确的显示当前经济的变动,而BLR是毫无反应
哪一个更便宜?
1)KLIBOR 看来更便宜因为漂浮在3.8%左右的数目,但是长期来说BLR是更息是更低。
     BASE(3.8% )+ Spread (0.7%)= 4.5%
     这个也需比较最低可得到的SPREAD利息
     BLR(6.85)-2.4% =4.45%
     我们也知 可  - 2.6% 以上。


From Year 1983 till Year 2015 1th January, We have been flirting with Base lending rate (BLR) on all our mortgage loan applications. Base lending rate is the minimum interest rate benchmark for every of our floating loan interest rate to charge us the ‘’borrower. The last adjusted BLR rate was 6.85% and what does it mean?
Example:
a)Maybank mortgage loan, Rm500, 000 Property price, 35 years, 2.5% (This is the rate offer by individual bank itself), 100% Margin of finance by bank.
How is the installment calculated?
BLR 6.85 – 2.5%= 4.35% Effective lending rate
The interest rate charged on the loan will use ELR (Effective lending rate) 4.35%, hence the monthly installment would be Rm2320, total interest Rm474, 421
b)If Public bank offer, Rm500,000 property price, 35 years, 2.5% (This is the rate offer by individual bank itself), 100% margin of finance. But with BLR change to 6.95
BLR 6.95 – 2.5%= 4.45% Effective lending rate
The interest rate charged on the loan will use ELR (Effective lending rate) 4.35%, hence the monthly installment would be Rm2350, total interest Rm487, 345
A 0.1% different will cost you Rm12, 925 of interest being paid.
Above example illustrates how BLR affects the total interest being paid after changes made by BNM. Don’t ask me for the formulae, just download a friendly installment calculator apps. I prefer “Simple loan Calculator” app.
What affects the changes of BLR?
It would be the OPR (overnight policy rate) is the so called Malaysia Interest rate and control by Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM).
It affects the interest rate charged between borrowings of banks with central bank. When our economy are under high surge inflation, Property bubbles are growing larger with property price surging 200% mark, too much of easy funky money around.
Too much of inflation is bad for the economy, hence ZETI tightened up the money, slowing down the economy by increasing the cost of borrowing on banks from central bank; this reduces funds available in the market by a slight increasing on interest rate (OPR).
When existing BLR is 6.85, Zeti increases the OPR by 0.1%, hence 6.85%+0.1%=6.95% BLR.
BLR is influence by changes of OPR.
Year BLR%
2014 6.85
2011 6.60
2010 6.30
2010 6.05
2010 5.80
2009 5.55
2008 6.75
2007 6.75
2006 6.00
2005 6.00
2004 6.00
2003 6.50
2002 6.50
2001 6.75
BLR 6.85% as a number doesn’t present much notion to borrower, as 6.85% is not transparent of how the figure is structured and how much profit does the bank collect. Therefore, Base rate are introduced.
2nd January 2015, Base rate is executed in Malaysia! Yay… nah…
Base rates are rate set within individual bank itself and changes to the rate aren’t directly intervened by the central bank alike BLR. Base rate differed across different banks and the rates are set depending on bank own efficiencies in lending; means to the bank liking itself.
Base rate comprising of:
Base rate(Benchmark cost of Funds + SRR) + Spread (profit margin, operating cost, liquidity risk, credit risk)= Effective lending rate
Base rate + Spread = Effective Lending rate
*We always look at the effective lending rate for our final loan interest charge*
Base rate:
a) Benchmark cost of funds are adjusted by banks itself depends on its own valuation of its lending ability.
b) Statutory Reserve Requirement (SRR) are the minimum bank reserve quota set by BNM.
Spread
a) Spread is the margin of profit that banks set according to the borrower risk value.
Fun facts:
1. Base rate is different across different banks.
2. When OPR adjusted by BNM, Base rate wouldn’t bulge.
Base rate would either stay neutral or increase, depends on bank owns decision. Base rate could even change without OPR altered.
3. SRR is the reserve requirement that bank needs to uphold, set by BNM. It’s a liquidity management. When BNM believes economy is prospering and lack of funds, it may reduce SRR requirement to keep less money as reserves in bank and have bank lend more fund out for economic activities. This lead to higher loan growth. The changes of Base rate can reflect the effectiveness of Government Monetary Policy.
4. Spread are defined according to the borrower risk profile, but spread rate are mainly fixed when display to public, as most of the borrower holds almost identical risk.
5. Base rate will be adjusted every 3 months, it’s following KLIBOR. Every 3 months we will witness a changes in bank base rate
Example:
Jan OCBC rate 4.02
April OCBC rate 3.92
6. Spread rate will not change and is fixed till the end of the loan tenure
7. even when base rate is superbly low, the effective lending rate in the end could be higher.
Example:
Maybank: Base rate 3.2% + Spread 1.5% =4.7%
OCBC: Base rate 4.02%+ Spread 0.5%=4.52%
It all boil's down on the spread given, hence do look at the effective lending rate instead!!! Shop around and ask your mortgage agent.
Base rate
Pro
a) Greater competition between banks
b) Higher transparency, as bank will display their profit margin and bank lending efficiency
c) Bank loan rate changes will have a higher correlation with Malaysia market economy and OPR.
d) Better indication in monetary policy changes.
Cons
a) Uncertainty. Rate will change every 3 months’ time.
b) There’s a bottom line for how low our loan rate can drop.
Example:
BLR 6.85
6.85-2.5%=4.35%
6.85-2.6%=4.25%
And so on
Base rate
3.2%+ 1.35%= 4.55%
3.2%+2%= 5.2%
BLR is negative in nature, it can go as low as the bank allows it to be.
Base rate is positive in nature, it has a benchmark bottom line. 3.2% is the bottom line and won’t go any further down.
So, what do you think?
What is BFR? And How to choose the best rate for base rate? Should I take the lowest base rate or should I take the lowest spread rate?

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发表于 13-9-2015 09:45 AM | 显示全部楼层
Madgenius 发表于 13-9-2015 02:40 AM
我很久前写了一篇很长的解释。
华语版和英语版。 慢慢详情。

谢谢你.. so how to choose the best rate for base rate? Should I take the lowest base rate or should I take the lowest spread rate? Any advice on that??
Can share with me your previous explanation link about the above? I couldn't find it.. I wish to know more detail.. with many thanks...


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发表于 13-9-2015 02:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
请问在海外工作,两边都没交税的情况下,只是payslip能贷款吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 13-9-2015 03:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
laysee 发表于 13-9-2015 09:45 AM
谢谢你.. so how to choose the best rate for base rate? Should I take the lowest base rate or shoul ...
谢谢你.. so how to choose the best rate for base rate? Should I take the lowest base rate or should I take the lowest spread rate? Any advice on that??
Can share with me your previous explanation link about the above? I couldn't find it.. I wish to know more detail.. with many thanks...


Base rate has been in other country for awhile, if we look at their system. Base rate will eventually converge at a moderate point, meaning to say the base rate won't differ much across different bank. SO it is advisable to take the lowest spread rate, if you are given choices to chose. SPread rate will maintain, only base rate are floating with market condition.

FOr now in malaysia, there's no the best rate. As base rate in malaysia is still in infancy stage, not much study can be made. So, just take cover and follow other nation case study for now.

The chinese article, I wrote this explanation to someone asking about base rate jus tlike you, somewhere in this sea of page.
The english article, I wrote it at a forum and facebook. Have to dig out where it is. Will post it here once I found it... hahaha
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 楼主| 发表于 13-9-2015 06:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
solomon301 发表于 13-9-2015 02:23 PM
请问在海外工作,两边都没交税的情况下,只是payslip能贷款吗?
请问在海外工作,两边都没交税的情况下,只是payslip能贷款吗?
可以。
你需要的文件。
1) WORKING PERMIT
2) WORK OFFER LETTER
3) IC
4) PASSPORT
5) PAYSLIPS 6 MONTHS
6) BANKSTATEMENT 6 MONTHS
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发表于 13-9-2015 06:17 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 @吴氏祖宗@ 于 14-9-2015 04:21 PM 编辑

楼主,我想请教一下,本人想买第一间房子,想知道以我的工资可以贷款大概350k的房子,能不能做到full load或90巴仙load
年龄 = 30岁 男
薪水 =S$2450(包括加班和津贴,basilS$1465)
车贷 = RM825/month
信用卡=每个月都准时还
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发表于 13-9-2015 06:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
你好,
我想问,23岁,去年income tax 报45k , 现在的payslip ,base 1k 算1k的epf 其他的是commission , 六个月平均4-5k,有一辆车供610 . 有credit card 但没有欠钱。这个情况可以贷款多少的loan ?
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